RIVERDALE RAT
50 posts
Aug 24, 2009
11:09 PM
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I think mine would have to be Shroyer Rd. I just read an article that refered to a Parkmoor on Salem Ave. can someone give my memory a kick ?
I remember Frisch's, Hasty Tasty and Charburger on Salem Ave but for the life of me I cant picture a Parkmoor. anybody remember where it was ?
Was it near Good Sam maybe ?
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corvettes6
31 posts
Aug 25, 2009
8:18 AM
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the Parkmoor on Salem was NW of Hillcrest about 2 blocks NE side of street it was in front of the Salem drivein
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Steve K
80 posts
Aug 25, 2009
11:58 AM
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The 1970 Dayton city directory lists these Parkmoor locations:
30 W Third
2801 Linden
1025 Shroyer
803 Watervliet
2020 Valley
300 Salem
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RIVERDALE RAT
51 posts
Aug 25, 2009
12:54 PM
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corvettes6: thanks, I remember it now. by the way I seen the original Rosemarys Baby at the Salem.
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newsnot
34 posts
Aug 25, 2009
1:53 PM
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i think parkmoor had a commissary on stanley. they made hamburger patties there and distributed items to their stores.
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RIVERDALE RAT
57 posts
Aug 25, 2009
5:30 PM
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Maybe, I cant remember about the commissary. anybody remember where the old Bluebird Bakery was ? I think it was in that area somewhere.
SteveK: I loved the one on shroyer Rd, they had the cutest girls working there. I can remember cutting through the parking lot as a kid and following the railroad tracks down behind Earl Kreigers wrecking yard. there used to be an old abandoned Hobo Jungle there where we used to hang out.
Last Edited by on Aug 25, 2009 7:05 PM
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tlturbo
124 posts
Aug 26, 2009
4:49 AM
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I wonder why the Parkmoor on N Main at Forest Park isn't on that 1970 directory? I left Dayton in Jan 1972 and before that I was always at the various car hangouts including that Parkmore. Started going there about 1966 with the Pontiac and then with the corvettes and I'd swear it was still there in 1970. Also hung out at the Airways Parkmoor a lot.
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Steve K
81 posts
Aug 26, 2009
12:42 PM
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Riverdale Rat... I only remember Connie, Bonnie, and Kathy from the Shroyer Parkmoor... this would have been from around 1971-1975 maybe....
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Becky73
146 posts
Aug 26, 2009
6:17 PM
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TTurbo the Parkmoor on North Main Street ( which by the way, was my favorite as it was right up the Nottingham hill from where I lived ) was not in the 1970 directory because by that time it had closed and became a Ponderosa. I also ate many times at that Ponderosa and remember actually standing in a line and was out the door. "Fast food" steaks were a novelty I guess. The food was good at first but later went downhill.
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oldnorthdayton
1 post
Aug 28, 2009
7:09 AM
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the blue bird bakery was on kiser street off leo street. my mom used to work right up the street at yoder die casting
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tlturbo
127 posts
Aug 28, 2009
11:55 AM
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Thanks Becky for the update. I SURE don't remember the N Main Parkmoor becoming a Ponderosa before I left Dayton in Jan 72. I must have been too busy at the Country Kitchen in Kettering and the Frisches on Keowee to have gone there. I DO remember being there a lot from 67 to 70. Senior moment I guess HA
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pie8me
14 posts
Aug 28, 2009
4:04 PM
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The Fricker's in Huber has the Parkmoor chicken recipe and serves it on special nights. Here's a link to the DDN article.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/entertainment/dayton-restaurants/crispy-chicken-has-customers-cluckin-at-frickers-in-huber-heights-248704.html
It didn't paste in live, you'll have to cut and paste the link.
Last Edited by on Aug 28, 2009 4:05 PM
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driver62
205 posts
Aug 29, 2009
7:38 AM
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The north Main Parkmoor is now a Rite-Aid Pharmacy.
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RIVERDALE RAT
80 posts
Aug 29, 2009
8:13 PM
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driver62: are they in the same building or did they tear down and rebuild ? That was shaped kind of funny to be a drug store.
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driver62
206 posts
Aug 30, 2009
7:35 AM
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The Parkmoor building was torn down to build a Ponderosa Steak House. Then it was torn down to build a Rite-Aid.
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RIVERDALE RAT
87 posts
Aug 30, 2009
11:00 AM
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yes, thats one thing that I remember about Dayton. they were always the "Tear Down" capitol of the world. somebody was always in a rush to tear down and flatten a building even if it was for no other reason than to make a vacant field or a parking lot that nobody ever used.
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dquartz
2 posts
Aug 30, 2009
2:55 PM
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I loved them all but I have to agree with shroyer road. that place had a personality all of its own.
Riverdale.. I think there was a parkmoor downtown at first and wilkinson ave but it's been gone for years.
Last Edited by on Aug 30, 2009 3:11 PM
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driver62
207 posts
Aug 30, 2009
3:37 PM
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Riverdale Rat - Yep, Dayton is famous for tearing things down and puting up parking lots. The Miami Hardware on Salem closed quite a few years ago and now it's a parking lot that never has a car parked there.
Last Edited by on Aug 30, 2009 3:38 PM
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dquartz
5 posts
Aug 30, 2009
4:38 PM
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was that a parkmoor on the corner of salem ave and superior ave ?
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RIVERDALE RAT
95 posts
Aug 30, 2009
6:03 PM
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dquartz: I am wanting to say yes. I remember the Krogers, Rubys Blue Willow and the red feather building like yesterday. I remember a drive in restaurant at Salem and superior. That one was never on my cruising list but I am 90% sure it was a Parkmoor at one time. Driver, Steve, can anybody help ?
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dquartz
8 posts
Aug 30, 2009
7:05 PM
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seems to me like there was once a Parkmoor there at east 3rd and patterson blvd. it was near the library but that one has been closed for ages. I am not talking about the old white tower, the parkmoor was on the other corner.
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RIVERDALE RAT
98 posts
Aug 30, 2009
7:30 PM
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dquartz: I know where you are talking about, SW corner. it was a Charburger at one time and after that it was a Tile outlet place. never was a Parkmoor though that I can remember.
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dquartz
9 posts
Aug 30, 2009
10:24 PM
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ok, I stand corrected on that one. its amazing how much stuff a person can forget over the years. I just came over here by accident and I've already had my brain joggled more in one day than in the past 25 years. I think I love this site it has already resurected more happy memories than I thought possible. riverdale..your keen memory on little details is amazing as a matter of fact all of you guys are amazing. thanks so much.
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driver62
210 posts
Aug 31, 2009
7:17 AM
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Riverdale Rat - If there was a Parkmoor at Salem and Superior, it was long gone when I moved to Dayton in 1972. McAllisters Art Supply (now closed) was on one corner and Longfellow school is on another. There is a parking lot (another one) on the NE corner. Maybe that was the location.
By the way, there is or was a local band in Dayton called the Riverdale Rats.
Last Edited by on Aug 31, 2009 7:19 AM
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tlturbo
131 posts
Aug 31, 2009
7:44 AM
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Memory jog here - on 3rd street just past the main library was an Army Navy Surplus store. I used to buy my fishing and water ski stuff there. Across the street somewhere was a burger place that I THINK was a Whimpy's. Am I remembering correct?
Also, as you head out Salem toward the Mall you go up a hill then down toward the mall. At the top of that hill on the right was an IHOP or pancake house or some similar type place. Any idea? Met a great looking gal that worked there around 70-71.
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RIVERDALE RAT
99 posts
Aug 31, 2009
8:08 AM
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Driver62: The drive-in was on the SW corner of salem katty-cornered from the school. I cant believe I dont remember what it was. I have been there a few times, I remember the counter used to run north/south. never knew about the band, thanks for the Info.
Turbo: yes, the army/navy store was right up from the White Tower on the same side of the street. Combat was a big hit on T.V. back in those days and I used to get a kick out of hanging out in there. They did have a good selection of fishing/camping gear. the burger joint was called Wympee's (white and Green front) it was on the corner of 3rd and Wayne where the #3 and #4 trolleys used to turn.
I vaguely remember the restauraant on salem but I am not sure of the name, I think it was across from the old Catholic home. if memory serves it was a retirement home for nun's
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dquartz
12 posts
Aug 31, 2009
10:17 PM
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riverdale or turbo.. wasnt there a bar close to that army store ? seems like it was in the same block.
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RIVERDALE RAT
105 posts
Aug 31, 2009
10:27 PM
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dquartz: There was a bar about a block east of the army/navy store on the same side of the street. it was called the Cincinatti Bar. as I remember it was just a little hole in the wall place. a couple of blocks East on 3rd and across from the Library was another bar called The Oasis Cafe.
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corvettes6
35 posts
Sep 01, 2009
2:43 PM
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can' remember the name the cincinnati bar took on when it became a gogo bar late 70's owned by Larry Flint Larry also turned Johnny K's reef into a gogo bar
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Mark1957
7 posts
Sep 01, 2009
4:18 PM
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As a young boy living in Patterson Park, the Parkmoor on Shroyer Rd was our family eating out spot. I remember sitting in the car with the tray hanging off the window. I remember sitting in the booth inside with the jukebox selectors located on the wall side of the booth. They had the pages you could flip through to pick your music selection. I believe they were chrome. One time, when I was very young, I squeezed the red plastic ketchup dispenser and it must have squirted ketchup six feet up and all over the curtains. I remember the looks on my parents faces as they sprang into action. That was good chicken!
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dquartz
14 posts
Sep 01, 2009
8:37 PM
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corvettes6..where was the reef at, was it on salem avenue ?... thanks.
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RIVERDALE RAT
114 posts
Sep 01, 2009
9:41 PM
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Mark1957: I remember that night, I was sitting in the booth behind you. you still owe me 8 bucks for the dry cleaning bill. (joking of course) your description of the place fits my memory to a Tee. I always said that there was something about that parkmoor that made it more special than the rest, it had it's own personality.
corvettes6: I never knew that Flynt put a club at that location. he must have spent a bundle to remodel. as I remember that was a narrow, dingy old dump. I knew he had put a Hustler club in Dayton but I was thinking it was on the west side of main between 1st and monument. do you know if there is still a bar there where the Cincy/flynt club was ?
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dquartz
22 posts
Sep 01, 2009
11:29 PM
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did anybody ever remember if that was a parkmoor there on the corner of salem and superior ?
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newsnot
59 posts
Sep 02, 2009
3:22 AM
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dquartz.
there was a mcdonald's that closed and a rally's at salem and superior or close to it. superior is a candatate on the best "rougher" streets list.
was the parkmoor at either of those locations?
a rougher street is one with 10 o/o or more boarded up or torn down houses.
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corvettes6
36 posts
Sep 02, 2009
6:52 AM
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Rivardale R Bar is long gone wholesale motorcycle parts now Flynt at one time had 4 or 5 bars in Dayton Got his start here
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driver62
215 posts
Sep 02, 2009
9:04 AM
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Riverdale Rat - The SW corner of Salem and Superior is directly across the street from the school. The NW corner is katty cornered from the school and where the old McAllisters Art Supply building is. The SW corner is now the 5th District police station.
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RIVERDALE RAT
123 posts
Sep 02, 2009
8:01 PM
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SteveK: if memory serves, the Cincinatti Bar was a ways past the surplus store, just to the east of where Wayne ave dead ends into 3rd. the last I knew of
Miami Jacobs Business college it was on the 2nd or 3rd floor of some building on Ludlow near 2nd st.
corvettes6: The last thing I knew about Larry Flynt was when I heard that he had opened a hustler club on N Main (i think) I was thinking it was there near where the old White Tower used to be. I know there was once a club near 1st and main called the Talk of the Town. Flynt may have even opened up a few clubs before he started doing the Hustler thing. I know he used to be around Dayton a lot. I am pretty sure that he either worked or had a girlfriend who owned or worked at the old Ruby's Blue Willow Bar on Salem ave. I Remember hearing my dad talk about him. he wasnt too well regarded in certain circles back in those days.
Last Edited by on Sep 02, 2009 8:15 PM
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RIVERDALE RAT
124 posts
Sep 02, 2009
8:29 PM
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driver62: I just took a trip back there courtesy of Mr. Google. I posted wrong corner direction but the drive in restaurant was katty cornered from the school. McAllisters Art Supply building looks like the same building with some renovations thrown in. as weird as it may sount that little short brick wall that runs around the corner of the building is part of the old restaurant. the indentation where the bushes are is new, that part used to be flush with the sidewalk as did the entrance which now sits back off the street. there were plate glass windows running all along Salem ave. and around the corner up Superior for about 20 feet. I still cant beleive that I am not sure if it was a parkmoor. I have been in that place at least 20 times as a Kid. The SW corner
where the clock is (the 5th District police station) used to be Krogers parking lot. Kroger faced Salem Ave but sit way back off of the street. there was a large parking area in the front of the store.
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driver62
216 posts
Sep 03, 2009
5:41 AM
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RRat - Thanks for the info about the Parkmoor or whatever the name was. I've been in McAllisters many times and it could have been a restaurant at one time as the building is fairly narrow and long. To bad they closed or I would have went there and asked what was there before they moved in.
I don't remember a Krogers across the street so that must have been before I moved to Dayton. For the life of me, I can't remember what was at that location before the police station was built.
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dquartz
23 posts
Sep 03, 2009
10:19 PM
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driver, turbo and riverdale, thanks from me too. I am the one that got everybody wondering in the first place. i think it is really nice of all of you to try so hard to find the answer. all of you guys are great.
Last Edited by on Sep 03, 2009 10:21 PM
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RIVERDALE RAT
133 posts
Sep 04, 2009
6:17 AM
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dquartz: I am still 90% sure that it was once a Parkmoor. but it will be great to see how foggy my memory really is.
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dquartz
36 posts
Sep 04, 2009
6:34 PM
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i know it was some type of drive in. maybe it was a private restaurant or something. i do remember krogers being across the street though so you are right about that part.
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driver62
222 posts
Sep 05, 2009
6:53 AM
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If the Krogers was between Superior and Grand, it's a beauty supply place now.
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RIVERDALE RAT
151 posts
Sep 05, 2009
11:47 AM
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driver: we are trying to get a handle on the old Drive-in that used to stand at the corner of Salem and Superior Ave where the Art Supply place is now (according to Mr. Google) The old Kroger's used to stand where the Police sub-station is today.
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RIVERDALE RAT
164 posts
Sep 05, 2009
4:57 PM
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HEY GUYS... I just noticed this post from SteveK he put it there to help us figure out an earlier question. The 1970 Dayton city directory lists these Parkmoor locations:
30 W Third
2801 Linden
1025 Shroyer
803 Watervliet
2020 Valley
300 Salem
The one at 300 salem, has to be the one we are trying to figure out, DUHH. how could I have missed that. Thanks Steve, next time hit me with a bat or something to get my attention..LOL. MYSTERY SOLVED!
Last Edited by on Sep 05, 2009 4:59 PM
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RIVERDALE RAT
165 posts
Sep 05, 2009
5:12 PM
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dquartz: no, you are right. that would have been close to the old Liberal market and the entrance to the Arcade. I can guarntee there was never a Parkmoor there during my era. I wonder if thats a Dayton street address ? good heads up on that one. does anybody else remember a Parkmoor downtown on west Third ?
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dquartz
66 posts
Sep 06, 2009
4:47 PM
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no answers on the west third street parkmoor yet. iam thinking it may be a misprint or something.
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RIVERDALE RAT
174 posts
Sep 06, 2009
7:48 PM
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dquartz: I am trying to look up through some other information on Parkmoor locations with not much luck. I still cant remember a Parkmoor downtown. maybe somebody else can help with this one because I am at a dead end.
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dquartz
82 posts
Sep 06, 2009
9:56 PM
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does anybody remember the name of the big burger that parkmoor sold ? i bet all of you have forgot.
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newsnot
77 posts
Sep 07, 2009
8:56 AM
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there was a parkmoor at daily and galbraith roads in cincinnati not sure of any others there. that one was my favorite.
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