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RIVERDALE RAT 188 posts Sep 07, 2009 12:22 PM	Driver62: Yeah a few additions come to mind. Hoot Gibsons service Station. Hasty Tasty Charburger. Frisch"s Atta Boy I'll think of more later (maybe)..lol Theres some good Salem Ave. stuff in the Toddle House thread on the 2nd page. Last Edited by on Sep 07, 2009 12:30 PM
driver62 233 posts Sep 07, 2009 1:27 PM	How could I forget Hoot Gibson. His station was at Philadelphia and Salem and had this car out front with the big red,I think, cowboy hat on top. It's a CVS or Walgreens now.
RIVERDALE RAT 191 posts Sep 07, 2009 1:40 PM	driver62: I cant remember if the hat was Red or Orange and I think the car was a station wagon. You remember it sure enough and that was the exact location. thats what this board is all about, jogging things back into our head that otherwise might be lost forever.
driver62 234 posts Sep 07, 2009 1:43 PM	RR - I remember the car as being white but I think it was a 4 door sedan. I could be wrong as I've been wrong a few times on this board.(lol) I seem to remember from another post about a restaurant located at Salem and Catalpa. If there was one, it was before 1973 as I moved into my home that year and I only live a block from that intersection. Last Edited by on Sep 07, 2009 1:49 PM
RIVERDALE RAT 193 posts Sep 07, 2009 2:29 PM	driver: I never remember a restaurant at Salem and Catalpa. if memory serves, that is close to the Jewish temple. they was probably thinking of Frisch's which was a bit farther up near Good Sam.
corvettes6 40 posts Sep 07, 2009 8:42 PM	Hoot Gibson had those hats on what is called a square bird that is a 58 thru 60 ford thunderbird hE MADE many a car that ran at old Dayton Speedway He would help young rodders like me no charge He was quate a guy He also had a station on N.Main
corvettes6 42 posts Sep 07, 2009 8:46 PM	Betty Greenwoods Bobbi Gorden and Eddie Herring great singers Eddie shoot to death at his home on Oxford Ave. late 60's
dquartz 94 posts Sep 07, 2009 10:07 PM	driver..i dont think there was a restaurant at salem and catalpa either. corvettes6..thanks for all the history on hoot, i never knew most of that stuff. i do remember his station and seeing that car with the hat driving all over town.
bigbob 88 posts Sep 08, 2009 9:06 AM	The Pub bar, Sams Pizza next door. My Dad Would make coney dogs and sell them and drink up all the profit drinking beer all day.
dquartz 98 posts Sep 08, 2009 7:49 PM	it must have been up from catalpa a ways, i still dont remember it.
bigbob 89 posts Sep 09, 2009 5:09 AM	I can't remember exactly where it was located, i do think there was a Sams Pizza next door and it was a small bar.
driver62 241 posts Sep 09, 2009 7:00 AM	The bar just north of Catalpa is the only bar I remember unless you go quite a ways out Salem. The more I think about it, I'm sure it was called The Pub. I don't remember a Sams Pizza but there is a small strip mall right next to where the bar was. The Submarine House is the only business still there. Maybe that's where Sams was located. Last Edited by on Sep 09, 2009 7:00 AM
RIVERDALE RAT 292 posts Sep 14, 2009 11:41 PM	driver62: Was there a Yellow brick house that used to set at the Southeast corner of salem and Catalpa on a large lot ?
dfw 10 posts Sep 15, 2009 6:59 AM	More places on Salem from the ever-diminishing mind of someone who grew up very close to Salem & Philadelphia in the 50s...from Catalpa outward... Ravenwood Market Velvet Bud & Ed's BHA carwash Texaco Pure Oil Davue Theater (adults $.60, kids $.25) residence for Good Sam sisters two-story brick doctors' office building at Phildaelphia Dr Theodore Light's office/house houses before there was Frisch's greenhouse next to Hoot Gibson drug store at Victoria filling station between drug store & Miami Hdwr Beermans Gallagher's (sp?) Drug Malone Camera Pantorium Cleaners The electric bus route number was "5" and was labelled "Hillcrest" Feel free to shoot me down on any of these.
driver62 252 posts Sep 15, 2009 9:12 AM	RR - I don't remember a yellow house on the corner. There was a Famous Recipe chicken place there when I moved to Dayton. It closed and the building was torn down. It's a green space now.
driver62 253 posts Sep 15, 2009 9:14 AM	dfw - The only place on your list I remember is Pantorium Cleaners and it's still there. I didn't move to Dayton until 1972.
driver62 254 posts Sep 15, 2009 11:00 AM	dfw - Was the Texaco station on Salem in front of Miracle Lane shopping center? If so, the guy who owned it repaired my car a few times. I remember Miami Hardware very well. If you needed something, they had it. More than once I started a project at home and drove there to get something I needed. Last Edited by on Sep 15, 2009 11:03 AM
RIVERDALE RAT 296 posts Sep 15, 2009 11:45 AM	Iam Demented, I thought I was posting under the arcade thread. (Post deleted) I remember the Pantorium on Salem, wasnt that one like a main plant or something ?
KennyE11 4 posts Dec 18, 2009 12:57 AM	Does anyone remember the Key Hole restaurant? It was on the east side of Salem, I believe it was somewhere between Free Pike and Wolf Road. We use to eat there a lot when I was a kid.
driver62 279 posts Dec 18, 2009 7:09 AM	I remember the Keyhole. The building still stands but it's been closed for many years. If I have the right place, I believe the Mayor's father was killed there. Sorry I can't remember the Mayors name. The building out front was the Keyhole carry out.
Lgrando67 2 posts May 19, 2010 12:08 PM	dfw: Were you there when Salem was just one lane? and the trolleys turned at Litchfield to Hillcrest to Salem then back towards downtown? I remember Salem Ave. also. On The west side from Miracle Lane to past Philadelphia Dr. The Sunoco Station at Miracle Lane Krogers at Miracle Lane Litchfield Ave. Pantorium Cleaners Fur cleaning and storage company attached to Pantorium Real Estate office A big red Apartment ( or duplex) house. Shell gas station ( I remember the opening night, they had a big search light there. It was neat to a kid) Parkhill Dr. Frank's Tasty Bird a house that eventually became Arby's Edward Duell the florist Miami Hardware Sinclair gas station ( last owner I remember was Harold Kitchen) Overhead Door Sales. Victoria Ave. Prather's Pharmacy Piano store Another business of some sort. Must not have been something a kid would have been interested in. Then I believe a rooming house A dentist office shared with Dick's Barber shop Rudy's Marathon. (Later Jim "Hoot" Gibson; and he had a white 1958 or so 4 door T-bird with a big red Hat on it. He was indeed a hoot. We lived next door to the station on Philadelphia Dr. Then the big Doctor's Bldg. I believe it was owned by the Wagner family who started Colonial Village Apts. down a ways on Philadelphia Dr. Then Dr.Lights office and home. He had a personal tennis court behind his house that was across the street from our house on Philadelphia Dr. On the east side from So. of Philadelphia Dr. to Anticolis. Peoples Bank ( I believe later became Baskin-Robbins) Fialcow cleaners CarWash that I believe was a drive thru deal that started on Fairview and exited to Salem Ave. Davue Theater On the weird triangular corner of Fairview and Salem was a gas station. Although it was right across from our house I cannot remember the brand. Fairview Ave. Sherman House which was offices for the Hospital. Donated by the founders of Standard Register. Philadelphia Ave. Big house that was replaced by a Frisch's then by a Humble gas station now I believe it's a parking area for the hospital. Waldsmith's Leather shop Hepburn Ave. Toddle House Cavalier Cleaners Beermans Gallaghers Drugstore. Sam's Pizza ( Sam was the son of Mom Donisi and a friend of our family) A bar but not the Pub. An HFC ( household Finance Co.) office. Goody Goody's Benton Dr. Another Gas station Vernor's soda shoppe Litchfield Dr. Murdochs Candies Anticolis That is as good as I can remember. Some may be absolutely wrong. Please correct me
Lgrando67 6 posts May 19, 2010 7:53 PM	etbetb, How right you are. I completely forgot about Stanhope. Thanks for the mind jog.
driver62 296 posts May 20, 2010 5:27 AM	Lgrando67 - A lot of the places you mentioned were gone when I moved to Dayton but I do remember a few. The Peoples bank I remember as a Winters bank in the early to mid 1970's. It was torn down for a Good Sam parking lot. The Baskin-Robbins I remember was on Salem but across the street between Hoot Gibsons and Miami Hardware. Didn't the Goody Goody have a fire and never reopened? The Tasty Bird Poultry was there for what seemed like forever but they closed down several years ago. Edit: Thinking back, you are right about the location of the Baskin-Robbins. I'd forgotten about that location. Was the Big House and Frisch's you mentioned at the corner of Philadelphis and Salem? If so, that's where the Winters bank was located. My memory isn't as good as it used to be. Last Edited by on May 20, 2010 5:33 AM
carlatm75 33 posts May 20, 2010 9:57 AM	Ahh, Murdoch's candies. My sister was friends with Cindy Murdoch in high school and she always gave us boxes of their candy at Christmas. I especially loved their chocolate bark.
Lgrando67 10 posts May 20, 2010 1:43 PM	driver62, The big house was on the corner where Frisch's was later. Next to that was Waldsmith's leather (they made beautiful saddles) that is where the Winters bank ended up. The first Baskin Robbins in the neighborhood was just south of Davue theater in a little strip center that had parking in the rear off of Fairview Ave. The Peoples bank was in the same strip as Baskin Robbins
driver62 299 posts May 21, 2010 6:54 AM	Curt - Thanks for the info on the Salem Ave. photos. I still can't place where the Davue theater was located. Are there any photos of it on this site? I assume it was on the same side of the street where Good Sam is. Was it between Benson and Philadelpha?
Lgrando67 11 posts May 21, 2010 7:26 AM	drive62, Whwn you came to town it was a 2 story kind of brown brick modern type office bldg. that housed Dr.'s and on the north end there was a Cavanaugh realty office and the south end was a Fidelity Drugstore. It was kind of a wedge shape as I recall. It was indeed between Benson and Philadelphia but more like between Benson and Fairview on the corner of Fairview and Salem.
driver62 300 posts May 22, 2010 6:18 AM	Thanks Lgrando67 and Curt. Now I know exactly where it was located. Funny thing, I've driven by that building many, many times and never knew it was the Davue. Thanks again.
Don65 3 posts Jun 09, 2010 9:56 AM	I remember working at the Betmans drug store in Mirical Lane, back in 1964-1965, It was around Christmas time. I was 16 years old and did not know what Hanukkah was all about. A nice Jewish boy a little younger than my self, taught me about their religious holiday. I have always thought how kind he was to take the time to tell me in a way I could understand and remember all these years.
driver62 308 posts Jun 11, 2010 6:08 AM	Betmans, like Miracle Lane is long gone now. There's nothing left but a grass field. The old post office on Shaftsbury still stands and is now a church. Betmans is still alive and well at Catalpa and Hillcrest.
Marck1957 111 posts Jun 14, 2010 6:43 AM	How about lower Salem Avenue? The Cascades, Liberal Markets, Shedd's Barbecue, Carlin Audio, and the short lived McDonalds? There was a lesbian bar down there, but I can't think of its name.
driver62 309 posts Jun 15, 2010 6:22 AM	I forgot all about Carlin Audio. They were right across the street from McAllisters Art Supply. The place is a coffee shop now.
old4d 7 posts Jun 15, 2010 6:31 PM	Don and Driver, wasn't there a bar in Miracle Lane back in the sixties and seventies called the Brief Candle? They had go-go dancers, I remember a neighbor of mine was a dancer there for a time. I think the place closed in the 1970s.
driver62 310 posts Jun 16, 2010 7:35 AM	old4d - I can't help you on this one. I didn't move to Dayton until 1972. If there was bar there, it was gone by the early 70's as I sure don't remember it. Last Edited by on Jun 16, 2010 7:37 AM
Lgrando67 13 posts Jun 16, 2010 9:04 AM	old4d, To the best of my recollection the Brief Candle was at the back of Miracle Lane as you said on the left side of the property. That strip also had a Thom McAnn shoe store and a sports store ( I believe it was Jim Flynn's) a beauty shop and the bar. Then I believe there were steps leading down to the Prescott Avenue businesses that were below them. All I can remember there was Ollies Barber shop and a carry-out and a shoe and luggage repair place. I believe it was Strehles. But I could be wrong!
old4d 10 posts Jun 17, 2010 10:08 AM	We used to go to that "Smorgasbord" restaurant. Can't recall the name, but the food was pretty good.
driver62 315 posts Jun 24, 2010 7:41 AM	Wasn't the smorgasbord named "Duffs"?
old4d 18 posts Jun 24, 2010 10:00 AM	That's it, driver! It seems like that place was always crowded.
Lgrando67 15 posts Jun 26, 2010 7:18 AM	Hey driver, wasn't it originally called David's Buffet? I do remember Duff's there though and their rotating food tables. You would just stand there and wait till whatever it was you wanted to eat finally arrived at you "window" What a gas that was!!!
driver62 317 posts Jun 27, 2010 7:23 AM	I don't remember a Davids Buffet. It was Duffs when I moved to Dayton. I didn't realize that Duffs was a chain until we stopped at a hotel in Knoxville on the way back from Myrtle Beach and a Duffs was right across the street. Needless to say, we had dinner there. This was back in the 80's. Last Edited by on Jun 27, 2010 7:27 AM
old4d 20 posts Jun 28, 2010 11:14 AM	Just a bit of trivia~ I saw a picture on line of a vintage matchbox from Duff's with their ad on one side, and the other side said something about Duff's take-out menu, which included KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN, and had a picture of Colonel Sanders! I am guessing the matchbox was from the Sixties or Seventies. I'll try to find it again and post the link.
Timosha 2 posts Dec 16, 2010 12:13 PM	Close to the Kon Tiki Theater there was a small grocery store named Giambronis(sp). I remember a neon lighted sign on the bldg of a black kid eating a piece of watermelon.Wow this must have been the late sixties but times have changed.
bonncaruso 1 post Oct 04, 2014 6:39 PM	corvettes6: Eddie Herring and his wife were both killed in March, 1973. He sang at the Cascades with Bobbi Gordon and my mom, Judy Brown (who was called Dayton's RED HOT MAMA). I remember the Cascades very well. My mom used to take me with her, I would sit ON the bar, drink my OJ and do my homework while she sang her sets. Ciro Bovinzi also accompanied. Eddie used to bring me candy during the break. I remember the leg-kicker, too...
joey m 253 posts Oct 06, 2014 9:34 AM	bonncaruso I was good friend's of Eddie and Bobbie. A friend of mine's, wife was a singer there. Her name was Dottie Jean her husband's name was Jeff I used to party with them. Did your mom go by Big Red.
bucknutz 7 posts Oct 23, 2014 4:05 AM	What about the Kon Tiki Theater?
SuzyGirl 1 post Oct 26, 2014 8:47 PM	Looking for info about Lantz Merry Go Round night club.Aunt was married to owner/owner's son in 1930s and 1940. Her name was Bridget - nickname Tillie Thanks
oldcarguy 2 posts Dec 06, 2014 11:13 AM	I'm a little late to the party but thought I would add some of my memories of Salem Ave. I delivered the morning paper in the area near Grace Church in the late 50s. I believe across from Longfellow School was the original Plamoor Bowling Alley. Going north from there and across Salem at the corner of Salem and Superior was the Wympee Drive-in Restaurant, they had a great double burger. I remember just north of the Cascade Supper Club was a small restaurant called the Chatterbox that had great steaks and chops. In the middle of that block was a theater, believe it was called the Salem theater but not sure. Somebody please let me know if that's correct. A little farther up in that block was a great bakery but I can't remember the name. On Saturday when we newsboys didn't have school, we would meet there for doughnuts and chocolate milk. On the corner of Salem and North was the G&L Diner. Also in that area not sure exactly where was the Dugout Bar. Does anybody remember the Penguin that was close to Grace Church?
gris66 133 posts Dec 06, 2014 6:23 PM	I was the Dayton Daily newsboy with a route covering Salem, Arnold, Central, Grafton in the 1960s. oldcarguy... I think you're right about the theater being named the Salem (in the 70s it became the Astro House nightclub). There was a carryout in the alley parallel and between Salem and Richmond just north of North Avenue called the Trader Horn. The Dugout Bar was in the 600 block of Salem on the east side of the street in the row of store fronts, just north of North Avenue right before you reached Hoyle Funeral Home (post 1974, the 5th District police headquarters). Don't remember he Penguin... sorry. And... drum roll... the great bakery you are talking about was Henry's Bakery. Last Edited by gris66 on Dec 06, 2014 6:28 PM
oldcarguy 7 posts Dec 06, 2014 7:08 PM	Thanks gris66. Henry's was a great bakery. Penguin was on the east side of Salem on the corner just south of Grace Church. We use to skip out on activities at the church and hangout there. Can't remember name of the cross street.
wolfcreek 95 posts Feb 21, 2015 7:50 PM	I'm late to this party, but yeah, David's Smorgasbord became Duff's later. And does anyone remember the name of the department store directly across from the Frish's (the one near the Keyhole, Meadowdale, etc). And near Charburger (which later became a Golden Nugget), there was an early chain restaurant called Flint's, which had the coolest sign ever -- a very 50s/60s 3-d neon star, sort of an atomic age thing. Anyone else remember?

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