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Hankster65
53 posts
Sep 11, 2010
4:22 PM
Tomw, I'm glad I was at least in the ballpark. Sort of reminds me of when I was a Corrections Office for Montgomery County Sheriff's and would occasionally work "release" and have an inmate the did not want to be released. If you knew how harsh the conditions are in the county jail, you'd know how nutty that is.

That brings me back to a little history related business on this subject. I think it was in the 1970's that some court rulings concerning the freedom of individuals not considered to be a threat to society resulted in these institutions dumping these patients out on the street and closing up shop. (Many thought this to be a cost saving measure on the part of the government. They very well may have a legitimate point.) Bottom line is that a great number of the homeless are mentally ill, and are ill equipped to live on their own and are still a burden on society. As a CO I saw them repeatedly arrested for trespass and other minor offenses, thereby eating into the resources of the police agencies, the jail, etc. I don't think these folks were shown any favors by dumping them on the street, nor do I think society did itself any favors.
Doug68
95 posts
May 30, 2011
12:02 PM
Someone told me that whenever an inmate escaped (or wandered off) from the hospital, a siren would be sounded to alert area residents to be on the look out.
Perry401
58 posts
Jun 01, 2011
7:15 PM
One of the funniest stories about what became the Dayton State Hospital is that when first established, it was called an infirmary -- many hospitals were called this at the time. A new director for the Soldiers Infirmary (Soldier and Sailors home or VA Center) arrived in Dayton by train and hired a horse drawn cab to take him to the Dayton Infirmary. He was delivered to the Mental hospital, telling people who greated him that he was the new director and wanting to talk to those in charge. The doctors at the mental hospital assumed he was a dillusional patient, and kept him there for several days for observation and treatment before someone from the Soldiers Home finally figured out what had happened and got him released.
Perry401
59 posts
Jun 01, 2011
7:24 PM
My memories of Dr. Faruki are different than most posted here. To me he was the father of a classmate at Horace Mann School. (We also had children attending our school who were the children of the manager of Woodland Cemetary, who lived in the big house near the main gate.)

Dr. Faruki always seemed to be a nice guy -- very devoted to his family, and a ton of fun to be around. He was always telling non medical or non-psyciatric jokes. My father needed to find a turbin for some sort of play, and Dr. Faruki loaned him one that I guess he had brought to the USA from wherever he came from. He was involved in the Boy Scouts and other "normal" parent type activities. Sometimes he would give the scouts "physicals" by putting a stethescope to the boy's head, then making some witty remark.
SgtSniper
7 posts
Oct 28, 2011
4:08 AM
I have a picture of me sitting on the sign that was out front of Mental hospital. I went to Belmont High it was next door to the Mental hospital
completelynutz
1 post
Nov 04, 2011
6:19 AM
I worked there as a mental health technician from 1969 until 1973. Yes there was a kirkbride. It was the geriatric unit in the back. It had the main hall as offices and the wards spread out at its side 3 to a side. Someone also mentioned the little building off to the side of the main building. That was the morgue. During the time I worked there homosexuality was considered a mental illness as well as drug addiction. In fact the young drug addicts were often given a choice in court to either go to jail or to Dayton state. Obviously they most often chose the state hospital. it obviously was a problem because they were intermingled with all the other patients and received no counseling regarding addiction except to stop doing drugs. Same with homosexuality. Just stop. Its amazing how much mental health has changed. There were very few english speaking doctors while I worked there. So often relating with patients was difficult. The most that was done was medication. I went through the tunnels many times with patients and by myself. When the weather was bad everyone went through them to get anywhere else since it connected to all parts of the hospital. In fact one side of the building only had the dinning rooms so the patients on the other side most always used the tunnels to get to the dinning room. I also did some work with the patients at the farm. It was great in the fall when we had real apple cider made by the patients there. I have so many memories so if anyone has any questions about that time I would be glad to try to answer.
AllenN71
335 posts
Nov 05, 2011
10:58 AM
Do you mean to tell us that in 1969, a relative could get someone involuntarily tossed into a snake-pit nuthouse if they were gay?
What was the "cure" for that? Watching Dr. Faruki take a shower, maybe? Yikes.
completelynutz
4 posts
Nov 08, 2011
5:57 AM
Dayton State hospital was not what one sees about mental hospitals. Medications that became available in the 50s changed that. Before medications became available there was lobotomies and shock therapy or being chained to a wall in the basement. So in effect there were no more "snake pits" What was there were a lot of patients that were there for a very long time the drug addicts, the drinkers and others that someone thought needed to be there for observation. After the 30 days were up the staff decided if the patient needed to stay longer or to be released. Dr. Faruki was a very educated man. I attended many meetings with him and learned a lot from him. Don't let looks decieve you. He was from Egypt.
wabash73
13 posts
Nov 08, 2011
6:48 AM
my father was admitted & committed to the "nuthouse",as
he called it throughout the mid 60s. My mother would take my all of us kids to see him. I remember they used
to let us fish in their ponds there, but all we caught were catfish and bluegills. My father did get electrical shock treatment there when he became violent. But he also just walked away many times and ended up back at our home in Dayton View. i was always very nerveous when I stepped onto the grounds. It just seemed like such an spooky place.
delcodude
210 posts
Nov 08, 2011
1:22 PM
completelynutz

I posted earlier in this thread about the basement dungeon that friends and I stumbled upon while exploring the vandalized and ravaged premises of Dayton State Hospital. I'm glad someone came forward with an account of it's existence in the framework of the hospital. It was a very eerie place..
Perry401
82 posts
Nov 08, 2011
10:08 PM
Much of the central part of the main building was destroyed by a fire, including the dome. The main building has been converted to a retirement home. Some of the "out" buildings have been torn down, and the new Belmont High School sits on or near where some of these were located. There was a miniature golf course located near Wayne Ave, but this was not in use and torn down to make way for a Family Practice Physician's office. The remnants of a bowling alley were discovered when the nursing home was build behind the original building.

In the main building, there are still areas in the basement which have had little or no changes since the days of the hospital. Other "behind the scenes" areas like storage closets, utility rooms, stairways, and similar areas often show some of the building's original ceramic tiled floors and brick walls.

In the basement there are odd little narrow-gage train tracks run hear and there. Spooky tile lined rooms that looked like they were showers or bathrooms of some type. Arched brick walls here and there. The section of the basement in the center of the building is now used for resident amenities and is very nice -- a small store, a barber/beauty shop, a banking office, a mail room, a health club area, a woodworking workshop, an informal eating area where breakfasts are served, etc. The Southern end of the basement, which is accessible by a keyed elevator button on a single elevator in the building is what I originally described. The retirement home people have partitioned this area off with simple plywood partitions and the area is used by residents for storage -- usually excessive furniture, or sporting equipment like bicycles. The North end basement is currently opened only for maintenance and is really scary!
completelynutz
7 posts
Nov 09, 2011
6:54 PM
i HAVE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT BEFORE BUT I BELIEVE THAT IF ANYPLACE WAS HAUNTED IT WOULD BE MENTAL INSTITUATIONS. THAT SUFFERING, PAIN AND SADNESS HAD TO GO SOMEWHERE. WE DID HAVE A REC CENTER. wE HAD A GYM OM THE TOP FLOOR. oN THE BOTTOM WAS A PLACE ONE COULS PLAY CARDS AND BUY A SNACK. tHERE WAAS A NICE SWIMMING POOL ON THE GROUNDS NEXT TO THE REC CENTER. aLSO THERE WAS A MIINI GOLFCOURSE AND BEST OF ALL WE HAD OUR OWN BOWLING Ally. All on the grounds. There were 3 isolation rooms on each ward for patients who could not control themselves om the ward.
DayViewer
4 posts
Nov 28, 2011
8:28 AM
Thanks for adding your post, completelynutz.

Thankfully, mental health treatment practices have improved and the incarceration of the sick, the old, gays, and women for arbitrary reasons is now frowned upon. I can only imagine the pain of grief of those who lived in institutions like Dayton State.
plr2
6 posts
Nov 30, 2011
1:25 PM
Folks, having grown up on the back (south) side of the hospital and having Doc Faruki's son a year younger, a Boy Scout in the same troop, and a friend, I have a little different take on things than those on the Wayne Av and lower Wilmington Av sides (north and west). I can remember when the area just north of the water tower at Nordale Park was a city dump. we used to slip in there, treasure hunt, then wind up throwing rocks at glass bottles, breaking them. then later if we were brave, we would go for the apples in the orchard or veggies from the gardens just north of the closed and covered up dump. the stories we always heard about the old guy with the shotgun were having it filled with rock salt, no pellets to worry about, but the fear of a load of salt in the backside did make us careful. Doc F. was a fun loving fellow off the clock, several of us would go to the Belmont Theater on Saturday evenings. we were all in the 11-13 age range around 1961. one night it turned chilly and began to rain while we were inside, Doc Faruki came to pick us up for a ride home, probably 6 or 7 of us piled into the back seat of his '59 or '60 Buick.
Doc was up for fun and decided to take us along for his "inspection" of the grounds. there were enough of us kids that we steamed the windows and Doc turned the headlights down to parking lights, we rode around the back roads behind the hospital itself, back into the garden and orchard areas while he smoked and regaled all kinds of tales. yeah, he scared the stuff out of us that night and I am sure laughed himself silly after we were dropped off. Carpenter Rd had nothing on Wayne Av that night, it was spooky not being able to see out well, being dark with no lights, dreary and drizzly, and heads full of stories about haunted orchards, walkaways, and and other prowling demons. paul

Last Edited by on Nov 30, 2011 1:40 PM
Butchl1977
3 posts
Nov 30, 2011
7:16 PM
I picked up a hitch-hiker near there once after being gone from Dayton for years. He asked for a cigarette and I gave him one, lit it and he threw it straight out the window. Said smoking was a bad habit. I relalized ? he had escaped.
completelynutz
15 posts
Dec 01, 2011
7:02 AM
When dayton state opened its doors it took people of all ages even young children. The only time I was in the dome it contained used furniture such as rocking horses and other children toys. At one time there was a childrens psychiatric hospital across the street from wilmington. It must have closed the same time the old hospital closed. I can find no reference concerning it anywhere and yet I interned there for 6 months. I have heard there is a building way in the back that is still working but know nothing about it. As for the old door in the basement it was used as a morgue at the time. The morgue was then moved to the little white building next to the main building, There is a lot of history on that land,. All of the out buildings housed older patients also. There were male patients in some buildings and female in others. These were the patients that were all there before meds. These patients have been there so long there was no where to put them. So they were warehoused.
plr2
11 posts
Dec 01, 2011
6:48 PM
hey nutz, in another thread did you say you grew up around there? maybe Walnut Hills if I think right. the old children's hospital I think is gone. there is a brick building back at the corner of Beckman and Anderson (the "short cut between Wilmington and Wayne) but I want to say it has no windows, maybe a DP&L station? are you talking about the long 1 story(? or 2) that you always could see behind the vacant lot west side of Wilmington, south side of Beckman? if so, it sat open and in disrepair for a long time, think it even burned once. I am pretty sure it was torn down earlier or at least in time for the little plat of homes west of Wilmington, north of the rail road tracks. I don't know when it was operational, only faintly remember hearing it said it was the old children's hospital, but if it was, then it was replaced early to mid 50's by the new one at the north west corner Firwood and Irving. that is the flat topped brick that seems to sit in a hole, right side going down Irving hill toward the ballpark and the old Oak Day pool. I don't know what's in there now. paul

Last Edited by on Dec 01, 2011 6:53 PM
completelynutz
16 posts
Dec 01, 2011
7:15 PM
I know where you are talking about on Beckman and I always thought it was an old DP@L building. The one I interned at was the one at Firwood and Irving. I have been looking for information about it for a while now and have found nothing. I was there in 1967. Although the job wasn't for me I can never forget the children I met there and the outcome for each. Just reading the address made it right for me. Thanks Paul
completelynutz
17 posts
Dec 01, 2011
8:00 PM
Tom I worked in the recreational department over the summer in 1969. So I am wondering if you remember me. My name is Shirley Dluski. I worked with cliff and the other 2 girls who worked there. I also worked with the drug kids and homosexual kids. It was very difficult for them as they were with all the old patients and their symptoms.
The staff was against them because they talked back. They asked more questions. It was hard for the doctors because of them couldn't speak english which I guess was ok for the old people but the young kids wanted to know things. The doctors took that as disrespect. the nerve of asking doctors questions.I have a small sotry I will never forget. A 16 year old boy came to us due to drugs. He had to go to the medical surgical building for a check up as that was what all addmissios Well they found out something was wrong with one of his testicles and they had to remove it. The end of the story is that they removed the wrong one so at the end they had to remove both. The boy found out and just went nuts. I sure didn't blame him. Anyway they shackled and medicated him and put him into seclusion until he quietens.
luv my dayton
135 posts
Sep 11, 2012
11:39 AM
Inside currently is beautiful which is amazing after sitting empty for decades. Its amazing to think that anyone at anytime could pop you into a mental institution for whatever reasons before laws were put into effect that no longer allowed that sort of behavior. Many were in them for no mental health reasons except to get them out of someones hair. My father used to drive by there daily on his way to work in the east end and in one window a patient would be there and wave to my dad on his way home. Dad drove a Willys jeep which made him recognizable.Human rights laws did good and did harm.Truly mentally ill people were set out on the streets along with the healthy ones when the state closed it facilities and we then began to see more homeless on the streets. Every state had the same thing happen in their cities.
marilee59
1 post
Sep 16, 2012
4:38 PM
My father worked at the Dayton State Hosp/Dayton Mental Health Center from 1959 to 1985. He was the Food Warehouse Mgr and I remember visiting the grounds with him numerous times. I also recall going to work with him a few times on a Saturday when I was quite young. I remember being afraid of some of the patients on the grounds because it was obvious that they were quite disturbed. I also remember the name, Dr. Faruki. I was wondering if any past employees on this blog remember my dad, Heber Colvin? I have lots of memories of the hospital.
luv my dayton
149 posts
Sep 29, 2012
9:07 AM
Was told that many people put there for no good reason and that being housed there made them crazy. Many not treated properly and might even say were abused. No wonder they closed down many of these hospitals across the nation. The expense and the brutality was ridiculous and it may have been a blessing for many to be set free.
marilee59
2 posts
Sep 30, 2012
4:50 AM
luv my dayton-I agree that some patients were there without a reason and I'm sure there was abuse. I do remember though riding with my dad on Salem Ave, near Downtown, and seeing patients wandering the streets. It was obvious they were ill. There were some group homes near there for patients that were released because the hospital was so overcrowded. It was just a very sad situation.
JJCofMAINE
8 posts
Oct 05, 2012
11:23 AM
During the mid-60's to early 70's, I was a member of the Kettering Fire Department, stationed at Co. 2 on Dorothy Lane. Several times, while on rescue-duty, we were dispatched to Kettering Medical Center (KMC) to transport a patient to either Miami Valley Hospital, or to Dayton State. KMC did not have a "psych" ward, so they had to move those patients elsewhere. We would find our way through a dimly-lit maze of hallways, and end up in the same place - a series of nooks, with a bed and maybe chest of some type, with a curtain to pull for privacy. The on-duty nurse would holler profanities at the patients, some times. We could not wait to make our exit.
Mgfys
1 post
Oct 05, 2012
1:03 PM
Out of curiousity, has anyone heard about an incident with a patient at the hospital taking/coercing a young female to the grounds and raping her? I think it would have been in the 80's. I don't know if this is a horror legend, or true...
cwfrey2
1 post
Oct 26, 2012
8:52 PM
My mom use to work there. She told me about the patients she worked with. One I remember is a guy who went around telling people "Perfect day for a hanging." I think he did it to creep people out but from what she told me the patients seemed harmless.
luv my dayton
163 posts
Oct 27, 2012
8:14 AM
Sounds from some of the stories I've heard over the years that for those in charge of the mentally disabled some saw humor in someone elses misery and acted accordingly. Others may have had a sadistic nature and acted accordingly then also. Never heard anything good about the place nor that anyone recovered. Seems they faired better out on the streets.This was a nationwide issue not just locally and all of them appeared to be their own individual nightmares to be in. On the same line as nursing facilities now with abuse of the old and febble. If there are to be places like these there really needs to be very close scrutiny by the state and each family to see that their loved one is being properly treated. Guess you know I am on my bandwagon on this one as have lived long and seen and heard plenty.
DLB1941
2 posts
Nov 20, 2012
5:25 PM
In the 50's about 55-57 there was a guy we called crazy
Don-kind of blonde haired blue eyes lived in the Belmont
area.He used to go into Gallaghers and steal Zippo
lighters and then down to Wayne Ave. At the time there were duck ponds out back--He would throw te Zippos at the ducks. Ric Robbins and I went to the ponds with crazy Don
one time-still do not believe he did that.Never saw him again after 56 or 57.
Mark1984
17 posts
Nov 24, 2012
7:56 AM
I want to refer back to a much earlier post on this subject. Sunnybrook 1959-You said you lived on Highland Ave and your dad was a Dayton firefighter. Last name wasn't Lolly, was it? My mom had a very good friend who lived on Highland. The guy next door was a dayton FF with that last name. Just wondering.
AnitaMc
2 posts
Jan 15, 2013
2:16 PM
I have very recently been a nurse in 10 Wilmington Place and have been in the basement. I have never seen anything but beauty and glamour. However, there is a "feeling". Many people do report this and will get spooked from time to time. Some of the folks who live here have told me about two men, one tall thin and quiet the other short with dark curls that laughs a lot. They don't "live" there now but may have at one time....I guess it's all in what you allow yourself to believe!
rdebross
28 posts
Jan 17, 2013
2:45 PM
I met Dr. Faruki a couple of times and found him to be quite a nice gentleman. When I was in high school (Patterson Co-op 62-65) I attended a model UN at the downtown YMCA. Dr. Faruki was the moderator of one of the small discussion groups covering world affairs. He was very good working with us high schoolers; asking good questions when we spoke up and prodding us to think things through. I also met him as a college student training to be a summer attendant at the hospital. Again very impressed with his demeanor and ability to work with young people.
rdebross
29 posts
Jan 17, 2013
2:57 PM
During the summer following my freshman year in college (1966) I worked at DSH. We had a 2 or 3 week training period and then were assigned to a ward to work. During training I walked through the basement below the wings of the building to the left and right of the center (domed) administration bldg. I was not aware of any subbasement, but the basement had hallways of white painted brick with lots of bright lighting. I never saw any rooms with bar doors, just storage rooms with strong doors. The basement windows did have bars visible from the outside, but so did all the windows on the floors above. The patient wards in the building were locked and no one wanted patients jumping out of windows.
rdebross
31 posts
Jan 17, 2013
3:40 PM
DSH might have been quite the scary place but by the time I worked there as an attendant in the summer of 1966 most of the scariness came from the my own imagination and the 19th century design of many of the older buildings. Very powerful sedative drugs were in widespread use during the mid-1960's. Ranting and hallucinating patients were uncommon. Yes, some patients talked to themselves and a few others made no sense in conversation, but by and large the patient population was pretty calm and reasonable. Some wards allowed certain patients to go out to jobs in the kitchen, the laundry and grounds care. Other wards were totally closed, no one left unaccompanied. All wards I saw were locked and attendants had keys to let those with jobs to leave. One guy conned me during training to letting him out for a fictitious job. I quickly found out; caught up with him on Wilmington Ave. I couldn't talk him into coming back with me and we were trained not grab and risk injury. Quickly called police and they found him a little later at the downtown bus station. As far as I know, DSH did not house many, if any, dangerous criminally insane people. That was the purpose of Lima State Hosp.
rtjunker
3 posts
Mar 18, 2013
12:28 PM
Some folks here say they worked at the hospital, and it's a shot in the dark, but I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about a patient named, Elsie Gable Gowans or Polly. My hubby and I are local Daytonians interested in outsider art, and came across some artwork and journals from her stay in the hospital in the early sixties. We believe she likely died there. She seems to have been well-educated, possibly had a daughter Grace Gable.
Thanks to anyone who can help us.
Syxpack
66 posts
Mar 18, 2013
6:23 PM
Hankster, it's 10 Wilmington Place and I bet you get a couple of ghosts thrown in for that price. Our senior center group went there for a tea one afternoon and it was lovely, but for all their refurbishing, I still felt very creepy and couldn't possibly live there, let alone sleep there. Maybe I'm nuttier than any of the former tenants were. LOL

Last Edited by Syxpack on Mar 18, 2013 6:31 PM
Perry401
142 posts
Mar 19, 2013
12:46 AM
I only got into the hospital a few times when there were patients there. The description of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" is pretty accurate for some areas. The early scenes in the Robin Williams movie "Awakenings" also were pretty typical of some areas -- a lot of people just waiting for help that never came.

Unlike the movies, I am under the impression that hospital visits by family were almost discouraged and when they did occur, they did not happen in the wards with other patients (and their problems) but in more private and controllable visiting rooms.

One person I remember said the same thing over and over again -- I think it was a name. They showed how if they pinched the person instead of saying "ouch" he would just say the name in a distressed way. If they told him a "knock knock" joke, he would say the name with sort of a giggle. They said he had been there for months and never said a different word.

Remember that mental hospitals were places where a lot of people were sent who now would be cared for at home, or in a nursing home. Patients with dementia were common, as were patients with various other issues that now can sometimes be controlled with medications. But the Dayton State Hospital also held some patients who were seriously ill -- bordering on criminally insane. These people were kept in jail-like conditions. Other patients were restrained to "protect" themselves from self inflicted injuries (or suicide attempts) but restraints or the jail like rooms were also used for "punishment" for patients who were seen as not being cooperative.

There still are mental health programs going on in some of the newer State Hospital buildings -- something the new owners are trying to play down. These buildings are behind the new Belmont High School. They have installed a new driveway from the old Belmont High School Teacher's Parking lot off Mapleview Ave. into this place identified only as "Access Hospital Dayton". There website describes the facilities as:

Access Hospital Dayton is a premier 110-bed capacity (28 active beds) inpatient mental health treatment facility located within the Greater Dayton area of the state of Ohio. Located on a 46-acre private campus at 2611 Wayne Avenue, Access Hospital is an integrated mental healthcare delivery system catering to children, adolescents, adults, and the elderly. Access Hospital is focused on fulfilling the end-to-end continuum of care desired by patients, their families, medical professionals, and insurers.

Last Edited by Perry401 on Mar 19, 2013 12:48 AM
JJCofMAINE
20 posts
Mar 19, 2013
12:43 PM
I mentioned in an earlier posting on this thread (Oct., '12) that, as a member of Kettering FD, my rescue-team partners and I would occasionally have to transport a patione to DSH. On at least one occasion, I remember bringing in a patient who was heavily sedated, and wrapped in a straight-jacket (the kind that binds the arms around the waist and buckles up in the back). We carried the patient into a small room, with one small barred window, and a single light bulb hanging from the ceiling. The walls were padded with what appeared to be mattresses, or similar material. We laid the patient on a mattress, in the middle of the room - no bed. At that point, we exited. I have no idea if the straight jacket was ever removed.

I can tell you that after every trip of that nature that I made to DSH, and I believe I was there 4-5 such times, I returned home to my wife and children, giving thanks for what we had.

Last Edited by JJCofMAINE on Mar 19, 2013 12:43 PM
CeKay
4 posts
Apr 13, 2013
8:30 PM
I learned about the 'nut house' when we moved from St. Joe to the Walnut Hills area in '57. We kids used to call Dr. M. T. Faruki "Empty Fruitcake"--definitely rude! :)
Glenda50
3 posts
May 22, 2013
6:43 AM
does anyone know what happen to the old records of who was there
greytdaddy
6 posts
May 22, 2013
10:42 AM
I believe the records are now at the Twin Valley Hospital in Columbus. Greytdaddy
smiles
1 post
Jun 23, 2014
8:12 AM
would love to know how to go about getting the info from when my father was in here. I know it will take time but where would I start? Thanks
newsnot
415 posts
Jun 23, 2014
8:25 AM
Smiles,
Welcome aboard!
Mable
1 post
Jul 14, 2014
3:40 PM
I am searching for info on my aunt. She was admitted to the Dayton State Hospital in the 60's for depression. Someone had killed her baby. I would love to know the true story. Any ideas would be appreciated
Lynda Mae Clingerman
1 post
Jan 15, 2015
1:03 PM
My mother, Jacquelyn Clingerman, died mysteriously and unexpectedly at DSH Feb 25, 1969, causing newspaper coverage, etc and she was one of the patients included in the Grand Jury inquiry of Dec 1969, which is, of course, sealed. Does anyone have any knowledge or memory? Thank you.
luv my dayton
806 posts
Jan 15, 2015
3:10 PM
according to my mother,now deceased, anyone could place you in a mental facility for whatever reason and many who had worn out their welcome at home were placed in institutions.laws drastically changed over the years plus institutions no longer available when back in the 70s they closed most of them down around the country which created some of your original homeless people.I would imagine finding out anything at all are next to impossible.

Last Edited by luv my dayton on Jan 15, 2015 3:12 PM
newsnot
489 posts
Jan 17, 2015
2:33 PM
Lynda Mae Clingerman,
welcome to Dayton History
Lynda Mae Clingerman
2 posts
Jan 22, 2015
4:31 PM
Well, thank you for the welcome - and I know, particularly from research I did at the Ohio Historical Society, that my mother's case is hardly unusual. However, in the last few years I have good reason to believe that someone from the outside actually killed her or had her killed, with a strong idea of exactly who did so. And I am looking for anyone who may remember anything. Thanks.
Lynda Mae Clingerman
3 posts
Jan 22, 2015
7:19 PM
I appreciate the input, but this used to be a vague family mystery where we all thought either an employee or patient inside DSH, just an accident or incompetence or wrong/too many meds. was at at fault - for decades that's just the way it was. Then, quite recently, new information came to me unsolicited that suddenly changed everything - now, when it is too late to really check. So, what I am saying is that I am now very certain of what I speak, not groping for WHAT happened or WHO did it, but anyone alive, though likely quite aged, who may be contacted who may any supporting evidence or memory of the incident. It is a very long shot, but that is all I am afforded at this late point. The person responsible was and is a very capable sociopath (though slipping a bit, which is how the info. came to me). I am not joking. I am looking for anything I can find. Thanks.
delirious1
31 posts
Mar 01, 2015
7:13 PM
Linda Mae,
I would like to know more about your Mother's case.
This is a especially interesting to me because my own
Mother was there during this year.
I would like to know why she was a member of a jury and who was on trial.
You can email me directly.
delirious1d@gmail.com
wolfcreek
109 posts
Mar 03, 2015
9:55 PM
I'll share a sad story in hopes someone remembers better than I do. In the late 60s, probably 67-ish, a young man either in high school or just out committed suicide in the Dayton State Hospital. He fashioned a noose from bedsheets. I don't remember his name -- he was the best friend of my older cousin (older by 10 years, hence my sketchiness). All I remember is he played guitar an loved motocycles, and suffered severe depression. Tragic. Now, after all these years, my cousin is gone too.

Actually, now that I think of it, I believe his name was Tom. But not sure.

Last Edited by wolfcreek on Mar 03, 2015 9:56 PM


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