GeneS
1 post
May 25, 2009
1:02 PM
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Does anyone remember the Toddle House on Grand near Salem and Grand? We loved their banana cream pie. A real treat to get that on the weekends.
My Parents owned Cincinnati Bakery and Deli, which was down the street a little on Salem. I wish I had the recipe for the rye bread. So many people over the years have asked for it!
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rodat6
31 posts
May 25, 2009
3:03 PM
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For Several years I lived at 1829 Grand Avenue, near Rosedale, this would have been 1957/58 as I was 15/16. Then we moved to 327 Lexington Avenue just west of Broadway. I've eaten in the Toddle House just as I made my way to school on Marathon just off of Salem at Colonel White each school day morning. I attended for the 9th grade then attended Runaway U, life of knocks for the remainder of my education although when computers and modems came into being, it was like going back to school and getting a better education, which I did. My first computer and modem was a Commodore 64 and that was in 1984. I was born in 1942 and grew up in Dayton until I was 17 then departed for what I hoped were greener pastures so to speak. I really loved the banana cream pie from Toddle house, can't say I remember the Cincinnati Bakery and Deli but I loved bakeries and cream horns and éclairs and such.
The only place I have established residence and found the food better than in Dayton was New Orleans from 1962 through 1968. They have or had really good food.
I have established residence in Dallas, Tucson, Los Angeles, New Orleans, Hialeah Florida, Houston, Flagstaff and Phoenix. Dayton had really good food.
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hawk
12 posts
May 28, 2009
8:49 AM
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I am not sure that was the name of the place but I remember the place on the corner of Salem and Grand kind of across from the gas station. I use to love eating there they had the most amazing fish dinners. At one time people from the courts and from the downtown area would go there for lunch. I worked at the United Way building at the time. What an amazing place with so much character. What happened to it?
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driver62
177 posts
May 28, 2009
9:26 AM
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Would that have been the corner where Betty Greenwood's Cascades was located?
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Curt Dalton
129 posts
May 28, 2009
12:00 PM
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Vic Cassano's had a place in the building there in the 1970s I think. It was called the Commodore.
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Dan-O
23 posts
May 29, 2009
6:26 AM
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Betty Greenwood's Cascades was located on the southeast corner of Salem and Grand (not really on the corner - there was a drycleaner’s on the corner, the Cascades was located next to it on the south, and a Liberal supermarket was located next to the Cascades on the south), whereas the Toddle House was located on the southwest corner of Salem and Grand (not really on the corner either, but closer to the corner of Grand and Arnold Place, the first street west of Salem, where I used to deliver the Dayton Daily News in the mid-60s). Sometimes my dad would drive me around on my paper route on Sunday morning, and we would stop in the Toddle House afterwards for breakfast (I always got waffles, and could never finish them all), which was quite a treat for me.
Cassano’s had a place near there, called the Tyrolean Village, which was located on the east side of Salem, about halfway between Grand and North Avenue. The Commodore was (and I think still is) a 9 or 10-story apartment building at the southeast corner of Grand and Grafton Avenue. We lived on Rockwood Avenue, only a couple blocks from the Commodore.
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GeneS
3 posts
May 30, 2009
1:28 PM
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Lots to remember around the Salem and Grand area. Rounding the corner from the Toddle House was Marathon Gas. A couple of homes going south,then a Vacuum repair shop, then the Cincinnati Bakery and Deli. Going down the road was McAllisters Art studio (still there?) and a knitting studio. Lets not forget the bowling alley. What was the name of it?
Of course across the street was A&P and Liberal. Cascades and crossing Grand was Leichtmans Drugs. Remember Sullys restaurant and Gallaghers? Not to mention the Salem theatre. Hmmm. What happened to those days!
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Curt Dalton
130 posts
May 30, 2009
7:06 PM
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I stand corrected. The Cassano's Commodore Restaurant was at the Dayton Mall. Here is a link to an image of the matchbook cover.
http://www.daytonhistorybooks.citymax.com/albums/album_image/6775762/4758748.htm
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driver62
179 posts
May 31, 2009
5:46 AM
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Gene S - McAllisters closed down either last year or the year before.
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RIVERDALE RAT
38 posts
Aug 23, 2009
6:36 PM
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I remember the Toddle House very well but not the bananna cream pie. I remember the gas station it was a Marathon. used to know some of the guys who worked there. Walker Huff and Newton are the names I remember. I also watched the Vic & Moms Pizza place being built. it was in an old gutted out theatre. I remember the dump trucks coming in and out with the loads of gravel needed to level out the floor. I remember Sullys tavern and the drugstore on the corner (but I forgot the name of it) there was a house right next door to the Marathon and it was owned by a man named Clifford Jelley. I think he used to rent out rooms in the upstairs portion of the house. I used to do yard work for him sometimes and use the money to hang out at the new Vic & Moms. I paid a dollar eighty five for a small sausage pizza back in those days. I used to have a major crush on a cute little blonde cashier at the Liberal market. her name was Cheryl Dereth. those were the days.
Last Edited by on Aug 24, 2009 9:18 PM
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dquartz
30 posts
Sep 03, 2009
10:42 PM
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riverdale..just curious how they got the dump trucks into the old theatre building to level out the floor.
do you remember ?
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dquartz
37 posts
Sep 04, 2009
6:36 PM
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GeneS.. was that a kosher bakery ? i seem to remember a kosher bakery somewhere on salem ave.
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driver62
221 posts
Sep 05, 2009
6:51 AM
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There's a kosher bakery called Rinaldos on Fairview just west of Catalpa. It's been there as long as I can remember. The location is only two blocks off Salem.
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dquartz
70 posts
Sep 06, 2009
4:54 PM
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driver62..thanks. that must be the one i remember.
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GeneS
4 posts
Nov 20, 2009
4:46 AM
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The name of the kosher bakery, a little south of Salem and Grand was Cincinnati Bakery & Delicatessen owned by the Schneiders (Boris Schneider and family). The bakery was closed around 1973. I am the son, and when we travel back to Dayton, it is so hard to believe what happened to Salem Avenue. Makes me sick.
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Lgrando67
3 posts
May 19, 2010
12:46 PM
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drive62:
I see you have posted regarding Rinaldo's. Before Rinaldo had the bakery it was located one building north at Ravenwood Ave. and it was called Owen's Bakery. This was the same family that owned the grocery on Cornell Dr. Rinaldo moved to the old Belton's Bldg. next door. Belton's supplied different flavored syrups to movie theaters and drugstores. I suppose that is what those wonderful phosphates were made with.
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driver62
297 posts
May 20, 2010
5:38 AM
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Lgrando67 - Thanks for the background on Rinaldos. Remember Engleberts(sp) hat shop at the corner of Fairview and Catalpa?
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Lgrando67
8 posts
May 20, 2010
12:51 PM
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drive62:
Sure do remember Englebert's. A friend of mines mother worked there for years. I went to Boy Scouts at the Fairview E.U.B. church across Catalpa from Englebert's.
Troop 6 George Clark. Did you happen to know the Mann family that lived on Catalpa between Otterbein and Salem?
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driver62
298 posts
May 21, 2010
6:40 AM
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Nope, don't remember the Mann family. Most of the people I knew or still know lived on Radcliff where I still live.
Last Edited by on May 21, 2010 6:42 AM
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tshrtguy
1 post
Jan 13, 2012
2:43 PM
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Lgrando67 -
Any chance you have access to or remember the recipe for Hunter Stew or the other 'contest meal' that Mr. Clark had in the Cricket Hollow campout packages? I've tried to replicate it but I'm missing some major ingredient.
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Riverdale Ghost
264 posts
Jan 14, 2012
6:37 AM
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That movie theater near Salem and Grand was called The Salem. They sometimes had some top rated movies there. At times, when we lived in the western part of the city, we drove across town to see them.
Some time later I saw a church bulletin notice from the area talking about the closing of "the dirty little theater" in the area, and I still don't know what they were talking about because it was The Salem that was gone.
But, it does seem like (the memory is very foggy here) for a while there was something about a "new Salem" theater.
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dfw
22 posts
Jan 26, 2012
12:12 PM
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Anyone recall a tiny hole-in-the-wall Toddle House on Victoria, just north of Salem, next to a record store? As a kid I loved watching the cook do eggs over-easy...with enough butter to almost frency fry them!
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