More Forgotten Pieces of old Dayton

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More Forgotten Pieces of old Dayton

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RIVERDALE RAT 398 posts Oct 04, 2009 12:10 AM	Curt Dalton: I think the verdict is pretty much in on your question. I was 98.9 Percent sure that entrance view was on monument Ave and Marck1957 agrees and even remembers the Sears auto service center (which I totally forgot) given the assumption that we are both wrong, there is no other scenario that makes sense. 1. If the picture is of the West 1st street entrance, then the shot had to be taken from across the street and facing North. there would be no explaination of the tall building showing in the upper right hand corner of the picture. (the one I believe to be the Biltmore) there was no building that tall East of Patterson Blvd, it's much too tall for a Delco building. 2. If the picture was of any entrance on Patterson Blvd. we have the same issue with the unexplained building. the photo would have had to have been shot facing West and that would put the unexplained building just across the Riverside Bridge in lower riverdale. I cant recall any building in lower riverdale being more than 3-4 stories tall. Marck1957: I dont recall that entrance having been closed, when did they do that ? Last Edited by on Oct 04, 2009 12:17 AM
dquartz 259 posts Oct 04, 2009 12:36 AM	curt...i agree with marck and rat. i seen that image too many times coming over the riverside bridge as a kid. and i also agree that other building is the back end of the biltmore hotel.
Marck1957 88 posts Oct 04, 2009 5:08 AM	Rat...I'm not sure if that entrance was closed or not. I was speculating that if it was closed, then maybe we didn't use it, and that was the reason why we don't remember it being there.
RIVERDALE RAT 405 posts Oct 04, 2009 6:03 PM	Marck1957: Ok, I have it now... that entrance was where you used to go down 4-5 steps into the lower level that everybody is talking about. actually if memory serves, it was not a lower level, it was flush with the rest of the 1st floor. I think the property ran a bit uphill in that part of the store and by the time you got close to Monument ave, you had to go down a bit to be level. that area was where the snack bar and the popcorn areas were. I sure wish I could go back and walk through that old store again, I miss the sights, sounds and the smells. it's funny looking back on how we always took all of those things so much for granted. Last Edited by on Oct 04, 2009 6:04 PM
dquartz 267 posts Oct 06, 2009 7:54 PM	riverdale...i cant find the thread where we discussed this but i remember you saying that the st. johns bus company ran to tipp city and their busses was green and white or cream colored. i could have sworn that the tipp city busses was blue ??? am i going crazy ?
dquartz 273 posts Oct 07, 2009 6:18 PM	riverdale...thanks, that explains a lot. as a matter of fact the blue was two toned. i wonder who has the bus service for all of those old st. johns routes now ? do you know anything about who had the bus service to moraine city, west carrolton or miamisburg ? was those lines owned by a dayton company too ? cause iam thinking that somebody besides greyhound had the service to those places.
Peggy Gilbert 9 posts Dec 23, 2009 9:33 PM	Hey Riverdale Rat My late husband grew up in riverdale, i have heard many of the stories from him that i have seen posted on this thread and many others. Did you by chance know him, his name was Roger Gouge? Last Edited by Peggy Gilbert on Jul 26, 2014 9:18 PM
Peggy Gilbert 11 posts Jan 03, 2010 4:20 PM	Riverdalerat My husband was born in 1940. He grew up in Riverdale on Best St. I think it is now named Alden St. His mother worked at Elder Johnstons, which later became Elder-Beeermans. Arthur Beerman was a shoe clerk at the Home Store with entrance on 3rd. st and on Main St. Later Beerman renamed the Home Store and then merged with Elders. My husband went to Hawhorne School and Colonel White, he joined the army at 17 and went to Alaska, he was stationed there when it became a state. I met him in 61, we ran around a lot at Jack Toro's Riverdale Niteclub, the Manor House, the Motor Bar, Green Arrow and the Blue Ribbon Bar. All of them were on Main St. after you crossed the bridge into Riverdale. We also used to hang out at Little Mickey's across from the safety building, the Satan Club (renamed the 224 Club because the church's raised cain about it)on east 5th, Blazing Stump on 5th. and occasionally the White Sands out on Valley St. I grew up in the east end on Springfield St. went to Huffman School and Wilbur Wright wanted to go to Stivers but my Dad wouldn't let us, we lived in the area where we could have gone to either. After we married in 65 we lived at Ideal Trailer Park on N. Main just past Forest Park at Shoup Mill Rd. In 67 we moved here to Belmont so I know a lot about Dayton. He used to work at Dayton Tire til they closed in 1980. We both went to work at Dayton State Hosp. after the closing of Dayton Tire, he worked in the Forensic part and I worked the Civil part. He had to retire in 1991 after valve re-placement surgery, i had to retire in 94, due to illness also. He passed away Dec. 26, 1997. I remarried a fellow from the Valley St. platt area in 2002. It was great to go back to the old memories thanks a lot. Last Edited by Peggy Gilbert on Jul 26, 2014 9:19 PM
fishers1951 6 posts Jan 03, 2010 7:28 PM	Someone mentioned Jim Flynn's sporting goods store - reminds me of when we camped out all night in front of that store to buy tickets to the Beatles concert in Cincy. My mom thought we were to young (13 or 14?) to go by ourselves so my sweet dad agreed to go with us to chaperone. He fell asleep in his truck in the parking lot and we took turns wandering around Dayton all night until the store opened. Can you imagine letting your teenage girls do that now?!?!?!
RIVERDALE RAT 449 posts Aug 17, 2010 4:33 PM	Does anyone know what ever happened to the Lawson's Store's, were they bought up by someone and closed down, or did they just go belly up?
RIVERDALE RAT 453 posts Aug 17, 2010 7:13 PM	rosewoodroyal83 Well thanks for that tidbit. I would have never guessed that even one of their brand products had survived. Kind of makes me wonder if maybe Circle K had something to do with the buyout.
RIVERDALE RAT 459 posts Aug 17, 2010 10:50 PM	Does anyone know the history behind the old ornate brick 4 story building that sits in the 300 block of South Main Street? It's on the East side of the Street and it's the first building South of the old Railroad Bridge, Directly across from Otis elevator Co. it seems to me like it used to be a lodge of some type, maybe the Knights of Columbus?
newsnot 195 posts Aug 18, 2010 5:40 AM	that is a beautiful building. i have noticed it often.
RIVERDALE RAT 463 posts Aug 18, 2010 5:54 AM	newsnot Yes, it always has been a pretty building. I remember it well from my childhood. I never did know the history behind it though. It seems to me like it was once used by a Lodge of some type, but I never did know who built it or for what reason.
AllenN71 54 posts Aug 18, 2010 1:09 PM	Just did a look-see on Wikipedia on Lawson's. They are now the leading convenience store in - of all places - Japan! In a series of mergers the U.S. stores were spun off to Dairy Mart, which then was in turn sold to a Canadian outfit that renamed them "Circle K". Apparently Lawson's Chip Dip was so popular that the Canadian owners decided it would always be called "Lawson's Chip Dip" no matter the name of the store. Like the Lord's Mercy, Lawson's Chip Dip endureth for ever. I suppose the "Big O Express" is now a tanker submarine ? Last Edited by on Aug 18, 2010 1:13 PM
RIVERDALE RAT 464 posts Aug 18, 2010 2:45 PM	allen71 What a great bunch of information, I never thought to check Wiki for info on Lawson's. Thank you!
AllenN71 55 posts Aug 19, 2010 10:20 AM	One does need to be careful when using Wikipedia as a research tool. It's less of a reference than it is a source of leads for good information, but this story seems to be valid.
RIVERDALE RAT 475 posts Aug 20, 2010 8:16 PM	AlleN71 Yes, I agree Wiki is not information that you can bet the farm on, But it has often steered me in the right direction. Places like Circle K and 7-11 was the begining of the death knell to our much beloved corner markets. Last Edited by on Aug 20, 2010 8:16 PM
RIVERDALE RAT 478 posts Aug 20, 2010 10:56 PM	Hankster65 Yes, I wish the same thing. of all the chances I probably had to go inside and look around, I never cared enough back then to do it. I don't remember hearing about the dances, thanks for adding that. When I was on here last year we were talking about how the old Wympee's Hamburger Joint had just shut down, does anyone know any updates on Wympee's, did the re-open, stay closed or get torn down?
Hankster65 39 posts Aug 21, 2010 10:52 AM	Rat, Wympee's is still closed and the building is being offered for lease. I was by there just today and took a couple of photos. If you like, send me an email (its listed on my profile)and I'll send them to you. That goes for anyone who might be interested.
RIVERDALE RAT 483 posts Aug 24, 2010 3:24 PM	Hankster65: Thank's for the update. I'm glad to know that they have not torn down the building (yet) I was almost afraid to ask the question. Thank's for the photo offer, I will shoot you a email.
RIVERDALE RAT 503 posts Aug 25, 2010 5:18 PM	Does anybody remember the late night crowd that used to hang out around the old Biltmore coffee shop? What a bunch of characters, Hippies, Hookers, Pimped out guys all mixed in with a few locals, people killing time till the first trolleys of the day started to run and the hotel crowd. The old White Tower across the street used to be a blast as well.
RIVERDALE RAT 543 posts Sep 04, 2010 10:25 AM	Does anyone remember Brawleys Restaurant?
driver62 331 posts Sep 05, 2010 7:35 AM	RR - I remember Brawleys very well and ate there several times. It was on Needmore just west of North Dixie and next to Ontario. Across the street was the North Star Drive-in. It became a Chinese restaurant, then a Mexican place and then back to Chinese. The building is empty now.
nancy121 5 posts Dec 12, 2010 6:10 PM	Rikes window at Christmas Was his name Bags or Rats a bum that sat at the bus stops down town. Z93 and the crazy thing they did...like a girl driving nude to get tickets to see Duran Duran or they filled the pot holes on a road (can't remember the name) with milk and cereal
hunt69 173 posts Dec 12, 2010 7:26 PM	The "bum's" name was Rags,it's what he was called anyway.
cilla46 4 posts Dec 23, 2010 4:43 PM	Reading all these posts brings back so many memories of my childhood.I grew up in the east end and went to Lincoln Elementery School at Demphel and Nassau Sts.Then on to Belmont High School.I never could figure out why anyone would build a school with the only way in an alley? I do remember many things that I haven't seen mentioned here. "Cooks Coffee" delivery vans that brought your coffee right to your door!I remember they were painted orange and black. "Neal's Dairy"that delivered milk in glass bottles with paper caps.My grandmother used their milk and I would peel off the cap and scoop the cream off the top!She would get so angry with me but I just couldn't help myself! In the summer an older man named "Joe" would drive around selling fruits and vegetables from his truck.I remember he had only one arm and he always had his dog with him in that old green truck!It was set up with a kind of rack on top where he could hang things.He always had a big bunch of bananas and if your mom bought anything from him he would give you a banana for free. I remember going to Huffman Dam and buying hot peanuts from from the wagon. Derby's Drugstore on Wayne Ave.just down from Edgar Ave., had a great little soda fountain in the rear of the store.The owner Ed Derby was always so patient with the kids.I think there were only five stools and sometimes you had to wait for one to open up so you could sit down.His store was right next door to "Charlie's Barber Shop"where my dad always got his hair cut. The square dances in the tennis courts at Walnut Hills Park were the big highlight of the summer.We lived across the street from the park and spent most of our summers there.We called ourselves "park rats" It's a shame that kids these days don't know that freedom we had back in the fifties.It was a different world and I'm glad I grew up then!
medvet84 11 posts Jan 30, 2011 9:00 PM	Well, I would guess that if youcan't remember the sears at Patterson and Momument, you don't havea chance at the earlier one at 6th and Main, one floor ,no parking? N W Corner The other one between 1st and Monument at Patterson had multiple entrances off the parking lot with an immediate stairway to the left that descended to the basement store where all the good tools and other man stuff was. Bill Flesh , WW Class of '43 was one of the department managers at Sears for most of his life time. It's intersting that at the north end of the PL, there were several concrete steps that rose to sidewalk level about 50' from that entrance. Don't remember how the sales floor level adjusted between the two different levels of the sidewalk and the parking lot??
medvet84 12 posts Jan 30, 2011 9:18 PM	I remember Cooks Coffee from even an earlier time and different kind of situation. I was 5 or 6 and the CC driver was parked in front of our house on Bell Street and I was lounging on the side walk watching for stray dogs. There went one behind the truck, quick as a wink I picked up a handy stone and threw it right through the window of the open back truck door. Sensing that I was in for trouble, this quick witted kid ran inside his house and up the stairs to hide under a handy bed. Unfortunately there had been wittnesses who squealed on me to my Mother who lead that CCC guy right to my hiding place. I've been told the matter was settled for $5 on the spot of the crime. That was only the beginning, little more than a year later, I killed a robin when I unexpectedly threw another stone on impulse, thinking to scare the poor little guy but, no errant throw that time. Sure surprised me, yr c1933. Wonder if that was 'Cock'Robin? Last Edited by on Jan 30, 2011 9:22 PM
rtb51 9 posts Dec 17, 2013 4:15 PM	While this place was not in the main part of town , it still attracted a hugh crowd on saturday. Thie would be the markethouse. The man that sold fresh horseradish had a dime stuck on his forehead and the horseradish made you cry. On the 2nd floor was a gym and CYO basketball was played there.
olds88 196 posts Dec 17, 2013 5:35 PM	I think the ornate house was a fraternal club.There was a nite club in that general area called The Esquire lounge. It was big time dance place and was on my Motorola at night on weekends.
KidPast50 6 posts Mar 02, 2014 6:55 AM	I love this site, it brings back a lot of memories! These are some things I haven't seen mentioned on this page: the hole in the fence by the livestock barns in back of Dayton Montgomery Fairground where you could slip under the fence and sneak in for free (it's still there!), Walnut Hills playground, and the Little Magic Shop on Brown Street. Another thing I haven't yet seen mentioned is the two twin church towers on Xenia Ave.
Mark1984 151 posts Mar 02, 2014 9:22 AM	KidPast50. If you you will click on "site search" up on the right. Enter "St. Mary's Church". You will find a thread that I started some time ago about when they used to be clocks up on both twin towers.
Nile 132 posts Mar 02, 2014 9:26 AM	The radio station that played the song Reveile Rock for hours was WING. I believe it was a stunt by the station itself portraying the radio DJ as the perpetrator. It was a big deal. WING sure got publicity for doing that!
KidPast50 7 posts Mar 02, 2014 2:59 PM	nancy121. a little more info. on RAGS. His real name was Elias Joseph Barauskas Born in Waterbury Conn. Died in Dayton May 5 1980 Tried to avoid attention but apparently wasnt too sucessful He even had a story done on him on national TV at the time of his death
stray 7 posts Mar 09, 2014 12:56 PM	San Rae Bakery and Delicatessen in Kettering at the junction of San Rae Dr. and Forrer Blvd. It was in a brick building with a clock tower. There was a barber shop, beauty salon, and a laundry in the same building. When my cousins and I were young in '74 or '75, we used to ride our bikes there to buy donuts and comic books. I remember one Sunday afternoon when the owner of the bakery followed us out into the parking lot and demanded that my older cousin empty his pockets. Apparently, he was of the opinion that "cuz" had been shoplifting. My cousin did as instructed and revealed a couple of pockets worth of lint. My uncle paid a visit not long afterward and literally RAISED HELL with the owner. Needless to say we never spent a dime in that establishment thereafter. The building was torn down (don't remember what year) and Dayton Reliable Tool expanded to occupy the tract. :) -stray-
RIVERDALE RAT 555 posts Jun 13, 2014 11:56 PM	KidPast50.... I well remember the freebie hole in back of the old Fairgrounds, can't believe it's still there I used it in the 60s. If memory serves I once spoke about it elsewhere in some other thread. I used to slip in and immediately get lost in the livestock barns before I was spotted near the fence. I never came close to getting caught, for some reason the Security guys or Brownie Cops as they were called back then never patrolled back there. I also remember the Little Magic Shop on Brown Street, I got into a lot of mischief with the things I bought in that place (especially the itching powder) I went there often because I lived a few blocks up on Brown, right next door to 'The Shed' I used to slip over to the back kitchen door of the shed and visit with the lady who worked in the kitchen. I remember a medium mushroom and sausage pizza cost me $1.75 out the back door..Great memories. Last Edited by RIVERDALE RAT on Jun 13, 2014 11:59 PM
luv my dayton 610 posts Jun 14, 2014 7:25 AM	For those who have been MIA from Dayton area they would be saddened to see how the area especially along Brown st has changed. No longer a Westward Ho, no magic shop where my dad would bring home fake barf and dog poo and in later years I would bring home sneezing powder and a liquid that smelled like a nasty bathroom. The shed gone and the list goes on. New establishments have been opened and UD owns pretty much of that area now. If it wasn't for this website as a reminder of the old days, the history of dayton and surrounding areas would be lost.
RIVERDALE RAT 558 posts Jun 14, 2014 5:47 PM	luv my Dayton.. Thanks to Google Street View I can go to Dayton whenever I feel like it and you are right, I don't even recognize many areas anymore. Some of the remnants of Old Brown street are still there; you just have to treasure hunt for them. I lived in the Grey house at 1124 (right next door and North of the Shed) Google tells me that the Shed is now called the Fieldhouse. The grey façade with the 2 windows and the blue awning is an add on, but the old building that was the Shed still stands behind the new front. My old house is gone and a combination of the new Shed façade and a small block building now sits where my house and walkway used to be. The old back door to the Sheds kitchen is boarded but the two concrete steps remain lol. (Can’t believe Google lets me go in the alleyway behind the buildings) Our old neighborhood Pharmacy is still standing, at the corner of Fairground Street, but Google says it's now a store called the second time around. Going behind my house, I can see a portion of the old NCR overflow lot is still there with the same old rusty chain link fence around it. A bit further up the alley where the greenhouse used to sit, is now some kind of a school or daycare center. The big parking lots facing Brown street where the Red Barn and Arby's used to sit is now occupied by a series of newer brick buildings, it's ironic that one of the businesses that they now house is actually an Arby's, I remember when the original one opened there, a Roast Beef sandwich was 69 Cents and a milkshake was 31 cents and the sandwiches were a meal (4 times larger than the skimpy ones of today) Behind that mess I see they have torn out and destroyed 90% of my old playground/park/ basketball courts. There is still a tiny playground there but it's all new and only the hill it sits on is part of the old park. I don't know what all they tore out or down going further south, but you never could see Holy Angels from back here, now you can see it plainly. Of course Frisch's is gone forever and without a trace. Heading back out on Brown street, I am pretty sure that's still the old bowling alley sitting on the NW corner of Jasper, it's just been chopped up and covered with false fronts/facades and turned into a series of different businesses. The old house that used to sit on the SW corner and housed the Bar and Grill is down and replaced with a larger brick building housing some type of restaurant. One of the former owners of that old Bar and Grill was actually on this site a couple of years back and we talked about the place. I wasn’t ever old enough to go in there but I know they had awesome home cooked food and the NCR employees used to pack the place out. That’s all the further I explored today because I started getting a bit sad..Later :-)
newsnot 376 posts Jun 14, 2014 6:29 PM	Riverdale Rat, Where have you been? Seems like you have been gone for at least a couple of years. newsnot
RIVERDALE RAT 559 posts Jun 14, 2014 6:45 PM	newsnot.. Good hearing from you for sure, I took a small hiatus because there wasn't much traffic on the boards and I felt like I was hogging the site when I would see my name dominating the posts on the first page..lol. I guess I just got busy with other things and a short hiatus turned into a much too long one. I never meant to stay gone this long, but I am back now and it's sure good to see many of the other old timers still on here with me.
luv my dayton 612 posts Jun 16, 2014 9:31 AM	Riverdale: Miami valley left its mark also as they have grown. That area isnt recognizable either. Some property owners made out like one armed bandits as older properties which may have been rentals all gone and now and have become grassy areas with small trees planted. Main street along the fairgrounds is missing Dominics and Dukes golden ox which had become more of a local bar instead of a food place. Miss Dominics but not the latter. Dennys still there. One thing Dayton has done is when they tear something down they plant grass and trees especially with all the schools no longer here. Lincoln on Wyoming gone. Franklin at corner of findlay st and fifth gone. My mother went to Franklin as a child and its sad to see it no longer there. When rebuilding schools they have added preschool thru eighth which has downsized the amount of schools needed. Being a senior I still miss what we had but there also have been pluses.
RIVERDALE RAT 577 posts Jun 16, 2014 12:09 PM	luv my Dayton... I know, I was joking with someone on here several years ago that I think the goal is for UD and MVH to one day grow together and become one entity at which time they can continue growing north till they form their own city. In my day the MVH ran about one long city block down Wyoming and the last building was the maternity ward (fairly new if memory serves). I think they did own the land on the North side of Apple Street all the way to Brown, but the last building on Apple was the new nurse’s residence/school or whatever. There was a good sized buffer between their last building and the corner of Brown St. There was a Dobbs/Toddle House on the SE corner of main and Wyoming where the trolleys used to turn and behind that sat a large brick apartment building (facing Main) There was never a Denny's anywhere in the area, I really don't think Denny's was even heard of back then. The South side of Wyoming was spotted with doctors Offices, a Pharmacy and several vacant lots. Behind all that was residential. I didn't know Franklin had been torn down, Google shows it still there with a newer addition added to the west (on 5th) I see Holy Family School has been turned into something called the Nazareth center. I still remember seeing all the kids from there in their blue and white uniforms crowding into Winnies Confectionary. I guess they don't have kids in east Dayton anymore? I wonder how much longer till the diocese closes Holy Family and the wrecking ball creates another much unneeded vacant lot. I think the ultimate goal is to erase every trace of their ever having been an old Dayton.
luv my dayton 614 posts Jun 16, 2014 5:23 PM	The area where Winnies was and the other small businesses used to be is a terrible sight. Empty buildings. There was a nice pharmacy at Torrence and fifth that is now a laundromat. Us kids used to have a ball going to grandma and pas as they lived in the alley of Monarch which is also delapidated and empty. Used to ride our bikes there and get $$$$ to go to winnies and to drug store for ice cream. East end used to be a nice well kept area but the old died out and people bought the properties and all became rentals and you know what happens when that overuns an area. There are still those who still try to maintain a nice property but am sure there values have dropped. Your prediction did happen as UD and Miami Valley pretty much took that areas over or waiting to get their hands on it. Will have to say that UD has saved some of the property and put new exteriors on them. Half of building 28 on Brown was salvaged and made into student housing. Worked in that building twice and was glad to see something of historical value allowed to exist. Yes young people there really was a John Patterson who created the industry known as NCR that employed tens of thousands of people and pretty much made Dayton what it was for decades. You can thank what is known as progress for their demise. Went by the World Trade office today on Patterson road and that is truly a magnificent building. Believe it is or will be used by UD. Once my generation is gone those memories will be gone no longer spoken of. Last Edited by luv my dayton on Jun 16, 2014 5:24 PM
historybuff 139 posts Jun 16, 2014 7:51 PM	LMD: The old NCR World Trade building was purchased by UD and now houses the UD Research institute, Alumni offices and the UD Life Long Learning Institute. I’ve taken several classes there and its a fantastic building. I think UD now calls that whole area the River Campus. They now have partnered with General Electric and built a 150 million dollar research building where the old NCR Building 26 stood. I believe the building belongs to UD and they leased it back to General Electric. Its a beautiful building and matches the architecture of the existing UD buildings. I can just imagine in the far future, that will probably be the UD administration building and the entrance to the campus. The UD campus will then cover everything North to Wyoming and Miami Valley Hospital, East to Woodland Cemetery and Wayne Avenue, South to Carillon Park and Calvary Cemetery and West to Route 75. Quite a large campus for sure…..
Ared60 78 posts Jun 19, 2014 6:33 AM	I dredged up from memory a forgotten item that I remember from 1961-62 (?). Outside of Trotwood, on Olive Rd, there was a small abandoned building sitting in a field. It was actually more of a shed and outside of the building there was a concrete pedestal with a mounting attached to the top of it. I was told, where and by whom I have no idea, that this was part of the Dayton Museum of Natural History and that the building was used as an observatory. The pedestal was a mounting for a telescope that I assume was kept inside the building. This was out in the hinterlands to avoid the light pollution from the big city. It appeared abandoned, as I said, with weeds grown up and seemed to be generally neglected. I never saw anyone there and the weeds were never trimmed. It might have been used every week for all I know. It was, to me, a forgotten place but one I never forgot.
RIVERDALE RAT 623 posts Jun 20, 2014 11:22 PM	Ared60...That truly is a unique memory and thank you for sharing it with us. I made a fair amount of trips up Olive Road in the mid 60s, but of course I don't recall seeing it. I probably looked right at it and never paid it any mind. It will be interesting to see if maybe a former employee or volunteer of the Dayton Museum of Natural History will see your post and maybe shed some light on it for us.
KennyE11 193 posts Aug 03, 2014 12:57 AM	RAT - In response to your previous post with regards to Google Maps street level views, I've had mixed results with this feature. When researching planned road trips, I try to use this feature for sneak peaks at landscape views along scenic routes, or to find specific locations in hard to reach areas. While I have been pleasantly surprised with results in some remote areas (including dirt roads, and a non-vehicular hiking trail), I have been disappointed when I can't get a street view (or even a clear satellite view) on US Highways or State Routes. I suppose, given enough time, Google will have everything covered, but they're not there yet.
RIVERDALE RAT 728 posts Aug 05, 2014 1:13 PM	KennyE11... Google street view is accomplished by some guys driving around in vehicles with mounted cameras. There are many areas that they just don't go. I have tried on numerous occasions to look up addresses and they were unavailable on street view. I think any particular area or route will only be as well covered as the driver is thorough. I just visited Van Wert and discovered that almost all of the side streets in the city aren't available. Street view is great for cruising around old areas, you will normally get to see most places that you need to or want to go. As long as street view is dependent on guys driving up every possible street, back alley or roadway on the planet, I don't see it ever being much better than it is right now. Satellite view is something I almost never use, so I really can't comment. Street view is a life saver for us folks that are far removed from Dayton, without it we would think that Rike's is still standing at 2nd and Main.
RIVERDALE RAT 729 posts Aug 05, 2014 1:19 PM	KennyE11... There is another one called VPike, that I use sometimes and I have been able to find several addresses with that, that were unavailable on Google street view. You may want to give that a shot as well.

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