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luv my dayton
661 posts
Jul 15, 2014
7:15 PM
Went by the park the other day and there's a large building being built close to the front of the park near Patterson. Does anyone have information on what it will be?
historybuff
177 posts
Jul 16, 2014
3:39 AM
LMD, Yes. That building will house the park’s own micro-brewery with it’s own brand of beer. The beer will be brewed in the same manner as the old breweries that were in Dayton at the turn of the late 1800’s and the turn of the century. There will also be a full service restaurant in the building seating, I believe, about 200 people. The decor will be just like many of the old bars and restaurants that existed in Dayton around the turn of the century. There will be many artifacts of Dayton history also exhibited there. Some time in the future, I also believe the current Culp’s restaurant site will become a historical building housing artifacts of the Dayton Triangles, one of the first professional football teams. All of the restaurant activities will then be at the microbrewery. Many of the park’s activities and details can be observed on the Dayton History’s web site…..
historybuff
178 posts
Jul 16, 2014
4:54 AM
Carillon Park has many historical activities and events. All of their events can be found on the Dayton History website. They also have a very good photo galley which shows a lot of the exhibits. A really good activity they have are their Tavern dinners. These are dinners held periodically in the original Newcom Tavern. Newcom Tavern was constructed in 1796 and one of the first houses built in Dayton. Originally at the corner of Monument & Main Street, it was moved to several locations, eventually ending at Carillon Park. The dinners specialize in authentic menus of that period and are served by candlelight. A very enjoyable historic atmosphere. Contact the Carillon office to find out about dinner dates. If you are interested, make reservations early as they are normally sold out…..
historybuff
179 posts
Jul 16, 2014
5:01 AM
One thing I forgot to mention about Carillon Park, starting this week they are putting on a presentation at the Old Courthouse downtown, a reenactment of an actual murder trial that was held in Dayton in the early 1900’s. They have put these trials on the last few years and as that seems to be a topic on the blog frequently, should be very enjoyable. I’m not sure of the dates, but they should be listed on the Dayton History website, or call the Carillon office……..
luv my dayton
662 posts
Jul 16, 2014
7:29 AM
Historybuff, thanks so much for all that information and the new addition sounds very exciting and interesting. You sound as though you may take an active part in the running of this lovely place. There are times I just stop in and enjoy the serenity of the park. Do you know if the hrs will be extended when this new building opens? The dinner does sound like something I would like to do but cost may be more than my budget would allow. Will check it out though and do need to make it there more often.

Last Edited by luv my dayton on Jul 16, 2014 7:36 AM
historybuff
182 posts
Jul 17, 2014
6:18 AM
lmd, I believe the hours of the new building will be extended when it opens. I am not sure about the rest of the park. It would be nice if the Heritage Center would remain open for longer hours. It might be difficult to accomplish that for the rest of the park as it covers a very large area. Many of the buildings are open for special events in the evenings such as professional meetings, wedding receptions, weddings, etc. You might enjoy returning to the park to visit the Heritage Center if you haven’t before. It has many of the historical industries in Dayton on exhibit with the story of the families who started them and their history in Dayton. I am familiar with the history of the park and many of their exhibits as since my retirement, I have occasionally volunteered there as time permits…..
historybuff
183 posts
Jul 17, 2014
6:20 AM
lmd, I forgot to mention that the Grand Opening of the Brewery Building is currently scheduled for August 22nd.
luv my dayton
665 posts
Jul 17, 2014
6:47 AM
Have been there many times over the decades and remember many buildings from the past. There is now a charge to take the tour and find that I have not done that in years. Do go to the pavillion and gift shop and also to Culps when company in town. Am sure new things may have been added since my last trip through the park. So nostalgic and remember when newcome tavern was up along the river and would take a lunch over and eat. Also the old Sun Oil station that we passed on the bus route into Dayton. Even has an old bus barn where it houses some of the various forms of transportation over the years. For the publics imformation be on the look out for various activities held there. The Octoberfest is always fun and an area set up for the children to run and bounce to keep their boredom levels down. With the weather as nice as it has been people should be taking advantage of it and put the park on their to do list.

Last Edited by luv my dayton on Jul 17, 2014 6:54 AM
KennyE11
207 posts
Aug 30, 2014
12:03 AM
One of the goals of my current visit to Ohio, was to pay a visit to Carillon Historical Park. I haven't been there in probably 30 years or so. In addition to seeing things that I remember (some of the historic buildings, the Miami-Erie Canal Lock, and the 1905 Wright Flyer III), they have so may more exhibits that really impressed me (including those mentioned by LMD in the previous post). Walking through the park, I really enjoyed the building housing the displays on the 1913 Dayton Flood - lots of good information there. There were living history demonstrations at the Print Shop and Newcom's Tavern (seamstresses at work). I saw the Gem City Clock (which has been discussed in the Ohio Bus Lines topic on this blog). But the thing that impacted me the most was visiting The Heritage Center of Dayton Manufacturing & Entrepreneurship in the visitor center.

The first stop when visiting the Heritage Center, is the room full of extremely ornate NCR cash registers. Next up was the animatronic theater presentation by John Patterson, Charles Kettering, Col. Deeds, with Orville and Wilbur, discussing Dayton innovation and inventions throughout history. While geared more for kids, I really enjoyed the presentation since I never really stopped being a kid. Next was the Deed's Barn replica, where so much innovation took place, including another animatronic Charles Kettering (as a young man this time) in the barn loft, discussing whether he thought the automobile would ever replace the horse & buggy. The Heritage Center then goes through display after display of companies that are no longer in Dayton, and examples of products they produced. As I continued this journey, I was at first stunned as I learned about products that I was not aware were from Dayton - I eventually started to feel sick, as I realized how much Dayton has lost. I realize this isn't just a local problem, it's an American manufacturing problem, with lost industries either through obsolescence or jobs moving off-shore. But I couldn't help but feel bad when thinking about what Dayton used to be.

Overall, I really enjoyed my visit to Carillon Historical Park. I would encourage anyone living in the Dayton area to pay this park a visit, if you haven't been there in a long time. If you have an appreciation of history, you won't be disappointed.
historybuff
220 posts
Aug 30, 2014
4:11 AM
One correction to KE11’s excellent description of Carillon Park and for his edification, the Deed’s Barn in the Heritage Center is not a replica, it is the original Deed’s Barn over 100 yrs. old. It was originally located behind Deed’s home at 319 Central Avenue in Dayton and then relocated to the Kettering/Moraine Museum in Kettering years ago. When the Kettering Moraine Museum closed a few years ago, it was then moved to Carillon Park. It was in poor condition from being exposed to weather for many years and was completely reconditioned by Park volunteers over hundreds of hours. Being inside now it should be preserved for many, many years. The original location at 319 Central Avenue, which is now several vacant lots, may have two of the existing neighborhood historical homes moved there and a plaque installed to commemorate that historically important location.

Last Edited by historybuff on Aug 30, 2014 5:17 AM
historybuff
221 posts
Aug 30, 2014
5:27 AM
KE11, as a fan of history, I don’t know how long your visit will be, but you might find it interesting to visit Woodland Cemetery. They have self-guided walking tours and also many guided tours. Many of those manufacturing owners of past years such as Deeds, Kettering, the Wright Brothers, Reynolds, Stickle, Olt, Schantz and many others are buried at Woodland. The guided tours provide interesting stories of many of these individuals. Several tours are available at different times covering a historical tour, Famous Women of Dayton, Sports Tour and a tour of owners of Dayton breweries is in development. The guided tours are generally one to one and 1/2 hrs. in length. Very informative for those interested in Dayton History.
Billd1952
250 posts
Aug 30, 2014
7:46 PM
historybuff, Jim Charters would like to know who you are. He said if you knew him, you would have his e-mail address. He is just curious.
historybuff
222 posts
Aug 31, 2014
8:59 AM
Billd, I know Jim and he knows me and as I mentioned before; he’s really a great actor:)
Billd1952
251 posts
Aug 31, 2014
1:31 PM
historybuff, I just passed the message on to you from Jim. He wanted to know.
Mark1984
191 posts
Sep 01, 2014
9:59 AM
KennyE11. I just took a friend to Air Force Museum last weekend. If you haven't been there in quite some time. It has become considerably larger. You need a full day to go through from one end to the other. There is just so much to see. And its still free!
KennyE11
213 posts
Sep 01, 2014
8:29 PM
Mark - The Air Force Museum was one of my planned excursions for this trip to Ohio. Last summer, I visited the Museum but was only able to make it through the Memorial Park (outdoors), Early Years gallery (early flight through World War I), World War II gallery (including the Holocaust exhibit), the National Aviation Hall of Fame, and the Air Park (outdoors).

This year, I went back to finish my visit, but it took me two days to get through it. The first day, I covered the Korean War gallery and the Southeast Asia War gallery, and I saw the IMAX movie "D-Day 3D: Normandy 1944" (excellent!). The second day, I finished up with the Kettering model plane exhibit, the Cold War gallery (including the Berlin Airlift exhibit and the Current Operations exhibits), and the Missile & Space gallery. The museum was closing, so I didn't have time to view the Space Shuttle exhibit, but since I just saw a real Space Shuttle exhibit at Kennedy Space Center in April (the Atlantis exhibit is AWESOME!), I figured I wasn't missing anything (don't get me started on how upset I am that the USAF Museum didn't end up with one of the Space Shuttles...). I passed on the Presidential Aircraft and Research & Development displays - I figured I can wait on those until the fourth building is completed to house them. Plus, I just toured the Pima Air & Space Museum in Tucson, AZ, in June (including the AMARG Boneyard Tour at Davis-Monthan AFB), so I've already seen most of the same aircraft types (in unrestored condition).

The only major thing I have left on this visit to the Dayton area is visiting more of the locations of the Dayton Aviation Heritage National Historical Park (or National Aviation Heritage Area, or Aviation Trail, or whatever it's called). I still wanted to visit the Wright Cycle Company Complex and the Huffman Prairie Flying Field and Interpretive Center, but I don't think the weather is going to cooperate. Then I'm back to completing my final Civil War Road Trip on my way back to Florida.


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