Bob Beavers
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Mar 05, 2005
12:07 PM
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Rich in historic value to the contributions of air power, the Hotel Van Cleve has scant little written about it. I have found a post card on EBay showing how it looked new in 1911, and meetings held there as late as 1966 so far.
It exists no longer as the Van Cleve Hotel, but perhaps it wasn't torn down. Is it possible the Van Cleve is being used for something else? It's already been suggested that the Rike's Dept. Store is the old Van Cleve, but that's incorrect. Very few actual pictures exist of this structure, and I have found one of the bar inside the hotel and some pictures of air power dignitaries gathered in a hallway for a quick snap.
This one will take a real historian - anyone?
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Curt Dalton
7 posts
Mar 05, 2005
5:56 PM
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From waht I know the Van Cleve was on the southeast corner of First and Ludlow Streets. Before that, the corner house was the home of Harry Graves. The next home was of Mrs. William Dickey. Both were razed in March 1927. The Van Cleve Hotel was built on the site. I believe the site is now a PMI parking lot for 60 cars. This would seem to be wrong information, though, if you have a postcard of the hotel before 1927. If you have one that has a postdate before 1927 I would like to know. I had one gentleman tell me that he saw one on Ebay from 1910, but it was actually a linen one from the 1930s, just listed incorrectly by the seller.
Last Edited by Curt Dalton on Jul 23, 2005 5:54 PM
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DarlaD
1 post
Jul 18, 2005
8:32 PM
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I came across a tablecloth that may have been my great-aunts. It is square with a wagon wheel in the middle of it that reads "Wagon Wheel Bar Hotel Van Cleve. My mother told me she believed it came from a hotel in Dayton. Was there a bar named "Wagon Wheel Bar" in the Van Cleve Hotel?
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Curt Dalton
21 posts
Jul 23, 2005
5:53 PM
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Yes, there was a Wagon Wheel bar there. I think it was in the 1930s and 1940s.
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viwiz
1 post
Jan 14, 2006
9:13 AM
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My Great-Grandmother had her wedding reception there. As a young girl I remember going there with my parents to that bar where they had entertainment. It was behind Christ Episcopal Church and is now a parking lot.
Last Edited by viwiz on Jan 14, 2006 9:13 AM
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Anonymous
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Mar 01, 2006
10:27 PM
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While throwing away an old metal cabinet at the church I
work at in Beavercreek, I decided to pry open lock to check contents. Inside was a whole box of
brochures from the Van Cleve Hotel. A car parked in front
appears to be a 1961 Chevy. Address for hotel is 36 W. First St. There's mention (and pics) of the Wagon Wheel, Mayfair Room, Gold, Green and Ballroom. Looked like a pretty fancy place back then. Anyone interested in these brochures, post here and I'll get back to you.
They may be of some historical value to the right person or
organization.
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Anonymous
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Apr 30, 2006
9:52 PM
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For brochures, send email to ftmckinley@yahoo.com and I'll
get back to you. Please type "Van Cleve" in subject line.
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digitalpixel
1 post
May 14, 2007
3:36 PM
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Hello,
If anyone is interested, I've purchased an item on E-bay that apparently came from HOTEL VAN CLEVE
It some sort of tea pot manufactured by the INTERNATIONAL SILVER COMPANY, has a stamp on the back
HOTEL VAN CLEVE
IS <=========================Inernational Silver hallmark
INTERNATIONAL SILVER CO.
SILVER SOLDERED
09S
8 OZ [36] <===================== number 36 inside a square
PATENT 1637853
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Jon Randolph
4 posts
Aug 21, 2007
6:58 PM
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Van Cleve's Wagon Wheel Bar was still in existence in December '64 as I had lunch there on the 19th (per my 1964 Journal) after Christmas shopping at Rike's. Upscale place to eat, as you would expect in a downtown hotel.
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Van Cleve
1 post
Sep 25, 2007
9:39 AM
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I was hoping that someone could assist me in locating info on the Van Cleve Family from Dayton Ohio. I am a decendent of Benjamin VanCleve. I would love to make a trip to Dayton so that I can do research on my family. My mother's maiden name is Van Cleve, her father is Arthur Tharpe VanCleve and his father is Pearl "clark" Vancleve. I know that Clark & his wife are buried in West Jefferson, ohio as is Clarks father Beniah Vancleve and his wife. Beniah's Father was buried in Dayton, ohio as that is where he is from. I would also love it if someone had any family portraits of any of the earlier VanCleve Settlers. Where is the best location in Dayton to go to get info?
Thank you as always
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M.E.F.
1 post
Nov 08, 2007
7:53 PM
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My family has wonderful memories of the Van Cleve Hotel. My father was the assistant manager and auditor from the early 30's to the early 50's. It was a truly elegant hotel. Unfortunately, it went out of business in the 60's and the building was torn down.
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couldnthititsideways
14 posts
Jul 15, 2008
6:56 PM
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I remember the Hotel VanCleve when I was going to high school-wasnt it on the corner of 1st and Main (northeast corner)? I know it was closed long before it was torn down....
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Steve K
20 posts
Jul 26, 2008
6:27 AM
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Van Cleve.... I've got some info on the Van Cleve/Tharp genealogy if you're still lurking here.
Steve Koons, Dayton, Ohio
wd8dcx@aol.com
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bigbob
7 posts
Aug 05, 2008
9:04 AM
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I remember staying there when i was about 9. My older brother and i dropped water balloons from one of the top floors. I can't remember what floor it was or if we hit anything. We were pretty rotten kids back then. I think it was 1964. We lived in Dayton until 1966 and then moved to Trotwood.
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gena0915
1 post
Jan 24, 2009
8:22 PM
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I just found this website and would like to know if anyone who had interest in selling items from the Van Cleve Hotel still has any items for sale or any further information on the hotel or the Van Cleve family ...I am very interested please just let me know.
gena
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gena0915
2 posts
Jan 24, 2009
8:29 PM
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My thanks in advance to any replies. You can email me at plevenhagen@wi.rr.com
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steelman9
1 post
May 07, 2009
5:07 PM
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I was working at Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio and went to the Van Cleve Hotel often. When they had an orchestra there, I took photos of the musicians. About 65 years later I found out that there were no photos of this orchestra during that period, and the son of the musician thanked me for photos to show the grandchildren of Jerry Livingston (the famous song writer). I also took photos of Dayton at night from the bank of the Miami River, as part of the short course at the Dayton Art Institute, where the guest lecturer was Ansel Adams in the Fall of 1940.
Contact me via looking at my web site www.loushornick.com where I have many photographs for someone 91 years old, still taking pictures.
MADISON, MISSISSIPPI
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rodat6
65 posts
Aug 23, 2009
1:38 AM
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I remember the Purple Cow on west first or second street and in fact I hung out in upper Riverdale and knew some Rats. Jim Allen, Jimmy Deaton, Jim Gibson, Randy Tipton who lived at 44 Victor. Marion's was a good hangout and it was in the year that Rocking Robin came out, Bobby Day sang and I remember standing on north Main getting the cops to chase us just for the heck of it. I attended Colonel White and I use to explore the service tunnels beneath the school.
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Marck1957
61 posts
Aug 23, 2009
7:04 AM
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I recently cared for a 103 year old lady at the hospital that I work for. She had Alzhheimers and didn't really know where she was or what was going on. However, she was pleasent and talkative, so I took the opportunity to ask her of old times. She told me about Steele High School and that she worked as a house girl for a wealthier old lady that lived in the apartment building right across the street, which is still there. I brought up a few old places in discussion, and mentioned the Purple Cow. Her eyes literally lit up and she had the fondest memories of that place. She worked there for a while when she was young and "made good tips" It seems that it was a popular meeting place for young people back then. She said "I haven't thought of the Purple Cow for many years! Who would of ever thought that I would be talking to anyone about it all these years later! You have brought back some fond memories for an old lady".
Old folks have many stories to tell. They can tell you about their first cars, what their parents did for a living, what inventions made the biggest impacts on their lives, and much more. I work in a job where I care for old people. Most times, their memories are faded and gone, but every so often one pops up with some fascinating first hand memories! Believe it or not, I talked to a 100 year old gentleman who had memories of the 1913 flood just a couple of weeks ago.
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dquartz
76 posts
Sep 06, 2009
5:10 PM
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rodaat6.. were the service tunnels anything like the ones that used to run all under downtown dayton ?
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Mary17
1 post
Dec 22, 2009
11:20 AM
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My nephew came across a teapot with "Van Cleve Hotel international silver co. silver soldered SFO 917 8oz. 40(in box) patent 1637853". If anyone knows anything about this please let me know. Thank you.
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steelman9
2 posts
Dec 22, 2009
7:31 PM
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I worked at Wright Field, Dayton Ohio and often went to the Van Cleve Hotel and they had a contest to name the Coffee Shop and I was the one who suggested that the name be "The Purple Cow" and said I would rather see than be one.
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forcumjr
2 posts
Dec 24, 2009
4:11 AM
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VAN CLEVE FAMILY. On 25 Sep 2007 an individual posted an inquiry on the Van Cleve family, saying "my mother's maiden name is Van Cleve, her father is Arthur Tharpe Van Cleve." It is a shame they didn't leave an email address. Dayton is a great place to delve into your Van Cleve ancestry. The Dayton Public library has a number of genealogy books that both go back to when the original Van Cleve came to America (Jan Van Cleef was born about 1628 and came to New Amsterdam in 1653). Such books trace the family through the 1600's, 1700's and 1800's including the important roll in early Dayton.
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Jonelle Shadowens
27 posts
Sep 04, 2010
6:41 PM
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In the late-50s and early 60s, I believe, Claude Cannon owned the Van Cleve. I think he "discovered" the McQuire Sisters and there was a series of publicities stills of them in his office. The first was not signed, the second was signed "to Mr. Cannon," and the third was signed "to Claude," expressing their gratitude for all his help.
The Van Cleve Dining Room served some of the finest food in Dayton at that same time. It was there I first tasted bleu cheese dressing on a salad, and Rock Cornish Game Hen roasted with wild rice stuffing. The Tropics had really fine fare, also, as did the Brown Derby. Yum!
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Timosha
1 post
Dec 16, 2010
9:12 AM
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I grew up in Dayton and would be interested in any Van Cleve Hotel memorabilia. Email me at vancleve@camtel.net. Thanks in advance.
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olds88
18 posts
Jan 27, 2013
6:18 PM
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The van cleve is another example of our city leaders doing whats best for the tax payers. land banks? We will soon if not now anorthern suburb of cinn.WHO chose not to distroy their downtown.
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AnnaR
1 post
Jan 30, 2013
8:07 PM
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I remember the Purple Cow. From 1954 to 1958 I lived at the YWCA and also attended Miami Jacobs just across from the Van Cleve. Most of us from the Y ate at the Purple Cow every day....or at the Gallaher's at 2nd and Main. I also worked at NCR for a total of 10 years. My memories of downtown Dayton in those years are very important to me.
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olds88
26 posts
Feb 01, 2013
11:57 AM
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Jonele you have it all pretty correct about the McQuire sisters.Mr.Cannon did take them to N.Y. to be on a talent show with Arthur Godfrey and teir carreer took off.My dad was afixture down there and we ate many Sunday dinners in the dining room.After or during his stay at the Van Cleve Mr.Cannon was city mgr. or mayor of Kettering.7fwcby
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