RIVERDALE RAT
33 posts
Aug 23, 2009
3:33 PM
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Whatever became of Cliff Cab Co ? I remember those old green cabs like yesterday.
Does anybody remember the old bordens dairy building that used to sit at the corner of E 5th Street and Patterson Blvd across from the White tower ?
Are there any White Towers Left ? I sure Miss those Grilled Butter Burgers.
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Steve K
76 posts
Aug 23, 2009
4:05 PM
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All of the White Towers are gone, although a couple of the buildings have survived.... the one at Third and Patterson is Yummy Burger or White Lotus, and serves Thai food.... the one at Patterson and Fifth is Smokin' BBQ.... there was another one further down on Patterson what became the Breakfast Club (now closed)... but not an original White Tower building.
I've been trying to get photos of every White Tower for years now.... think I have abour five... there were maybe 9 or 10 at the peak.... For that matter, I'm interested in photos of any local diners.... particularly ones that were built in factories and trucked in.... there were Silver Domes in Dayton (the recently closed Dugout Deli was one of those).... Wympee's, Joe & Margaret's Diner, the Gateway diner, Ken's Hamburger Kottage, to name a few...
Steve Koons, Dayton, Ohio
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RIVERDALE RAT
49 posts
Aug 24, 2009
9:17 PM
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Steve, I can only remember 5 which ones do you have ?
Last Edited by on Aug 24, 2009 9:17 PM
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Steve K
79 posts
Aug 25, 2009
7:55 AM
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I suspect that 31 W First is really 319 W First and that 60 S Main is really 601 S Main... so maybe only 8 instead of 9?
White Towers....
200 E Fifth
201 W Third
229 N Main
31 W First
317 E Third
319 W First
327 E Third
60 S Main
601 S Main
9 N Wilkinson
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RIVERDALE RAT
54 posts
Aug 25, 2009
3:12 PM
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319 W First and 9 N Wilkinson must have been gone for a long long time, I cant remember them. the old Stratford house hotel was at at 328 W 1st street and it was long gone by then, I think.
Last Edited by on Aug 29, 2009 11:18 PM
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pie8me
4 posts
Aug 28, 2009
1:09 PM
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The old White Tower on South Main and Patterson is now back open as the Brunch Club. They serve "Butterburgers" but I've not tried one so I don't know if they're the same.
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dquartz
4 posts
Aug 30, 2009
4:35 PM
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I am not sure but I think cliff cab company got bought out by somebody. I remember yelow cab and another company that had black and white cabs. were there any other cab companys in the mid sixties ?
I know this is a weird topic.
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RIVERDALE RAT
94 posts
Aug 30, 2009
5:48 PM
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dquartz: The cabs that I remember are as follows.
Yellow cab. (yellow)
Cliff cab. (dark green with red signs)
Miami/Liberty (black & white)
Checker cab. (off green and white/beige)
West side cab. (Blue) I think.
and there was another west side cab company that you never seen much of in my neck of the woods so I dont remember much about them.
those were the cabs that served the city. there were many other small regional companys on the outskirts. Oakwood, Page Manor, etc.
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dquartz
10 posts
Aug 30, 2009
10:28 PM
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dont remember too much about cliff cab. does anybody know what ever became of them, where was their yard ?
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RIVERDALE RAT
101 posts
Aug 31, 2009
8:14 AM
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dquartz: Dont remember them having a yard, their office was on Ludlow East side of the street close to the old Rocket bar and about a half block from the railroad overpass.
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dquartz
17 posts
Sep 01, 2009
8:51 PM
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riverdale..i thought bordens dairy was out on old smithville road just outside the city limits.
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RIVERDALE RAT
112 posts
Sep 01, 2009
9:11 PM
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dquartz: If memory serves, I think that was Molers Dairy on Smithville. can anybody confirm ?
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Steve K
89 posts
Sep 02, 2009
9:57 AM
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Yeah... that was Moler's... had a big black and white cow out front.... when I was a kid in the late 50's going out there was like a drive in the country. Building is still there, was a packaging service for a while, and a tropical plant store, think it might still have some kind of packaging business in it today. Think somebody told me that the wrestler, Don Eagle, did some promotional appearances at Moler's.
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RIVERDALE RAT
120 posts
Sep 02, 2009
6:19 PM
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SteveK: Yeah, that area was still semi-country the last time I was through there. I think that property stayed in the Moler family for quite some time.
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dquartz
24 posts
Sep 03, 2009
10:25 PM
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riverdale; I knew it was some sort of dairy farm. where is/was this bordens complex that you was talking about ?
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RIVERDALE RAT
131 posts
Sep 04, 2009
6:08 AM
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dquartz: The old Bordens dairy building used to sit at the corner of east 5th and Patterson Blvd. across from the White Tower. there was no Cow's Though (except Elsie on the sign)
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rfk61
30 posts
Sep 05, 2009
5:37 PM
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Thanks for the Moler's memory. I remember it was always a treat to go out for ice cream and seeing that big cow! If I remember correctly, we would always sit outside on some kind of loading dock and eat our ice cream.
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RIVERDALE RAT
168 posts
Sep 05, 2009
8:18 PM
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rfk61: when I was a kid about the only choices available for dairy products were Bordens, Sealtest and Molers. glad you found a fond memory along the way.
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dquartz
64 posts
Sep 06, 2009
4:39 PM
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yeah, i remember the cow. i wonder what ever happened to her ?
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RIVERDALE RAT
215 posts
Sep 09, 2009
8:31 AM
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dquartz: I have no idea, it's probably still in the Moler family somewhere. I saw it's twin sister in Los Angeles about 10 years ago, sitting in front of a shop on Melrose Ave. I am sure they made hundreds of them.
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Steve K
105 posts
Sep 11, 2009
6:52 AM
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rfk61.... Semler's sounds familiar... I try and see what happened to it this afternoon (I'll be in Wilmington).... There's an old ice cream joint (two actually) on the edge of Wilmington on Route 68 just as you hit town coming down from Dayton, but I'm thinking Semler's was somewhere else. I don't think I've been to Lake Cowan more than once in the last forty years.... people who lived in Wilmington didn't go there much in the 60's or 70's.
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Steve K
106 posts
Sep 12, 2009
8:32 AM
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rfk61.... dad says Semler's is now Gibson's Goodys... but I swear the Gibson sign looks like it's from 1950 and I know Semler's was there sometime between 1960-1970. This is on the left side of 68 just as you enter Wilmington when coming from Dayton.
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rfk61
44 posts
Sep 12, 2009
12:42 PM
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SteveK...Yes, that's the location I'm thinking about. We went there during the 60s & 70s, I think it was still there in the 70s.
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RIVERDALE RAT
272 posts
Sep 13, 2009
7:51 PM
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SteveK/rtk61: I have included a link for you to cut and paste. if you scroll down to the 5th page you will find an article written by Charles E Semler, he talks about graduating from Wilmington High in 1958 and having plans to go back home and take over his fathers Ice Cream Buisness. there is even a photo of the old white Semlers store. when you get to the link you will immediately think you are on the wrong page because the article is contained in a trade journal for the refractories industry which Charles Semler is now a part of. sometimes you can find Dayton History lurking in the strangest places.
http://www.ranews.info/ran/ran2007/ranja07.pdf
Last Edited by on Sep 13, 2009 7:52 PM
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dquartz
174 posts
Sep 14, 2009
6:32 PM
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riverdale...i just checked that link, what a neat photo of the old ice cream place. i tried to download it but that type of page wont allow it...curses foiled again.
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rfk61
52 posts
Sep 14, 2009
6:58 PM
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Thanks for the link! That's the place alright!
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RIVERDALE RAT
286 posts
Sep 14, 2009
8:31 PM
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I sent an e-mail to Charles Semler inviting him over to join our blog. dont know if he will show up or not.
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dquartz
189 posts
Sep 17, 2009
5:54 PM
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riverdale..did you forget sealtest as a choice for dairy products, or was they not around when you was here ?
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RIVERDALE RAT
317 posts
Sep 18, 2009
1:35 AM
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dquartz: No, I mentioned Sealtest. I did totally space out on Royal Crest though. they was around then too.
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dquartz
196 posts
Sep 18, 2009
9:32 PM
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riverdale.. i spaced out too. royal crest was what i meant to say, i seen people talking about it in another thread...lol
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dquartz
218 posts
Sep 20, 2009
8:50 PM
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i remember reading somewhere that bordens dairy opened up a chain of burger joints called the BBK's does anybody remember this ?
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RIVERDALE RAT
351 posts
Sep 21, 2009
8:07 PM
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dquartz: I never remember there being a BBK in Dayton.
There was several in Columbus in the Mid 70S. if memory serves, they was owned by Bordens.
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dquartz
224 posts
Sep 22, 2009
10:52 PM
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riverdale... were they fast food type places ?
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dquartz
234 posts
Sep 24, 2009
7:39 PM
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i am stil thinking that there was a bbf on north main in the late 70s. i was just in and out of town briefly around then so i could be wrong.
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Marck1957
79 posts
Sep 24, 2009
9:55 PM
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Are you thinking of Burger Chef? It was on North Main near Northtown Plaza. It was demolished long ago, maybe around 1985. They had an elaborate neon sign that had a little guy called Jeff ("Burger Chef And Jeff") that looked like his head was a hamburger, running along, seemingly in a big hurry. Becky....do you remember this?
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dquartz
243 posts
Sep 27, 2009
9:37 PM
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riverdale... we still havent found anybody who knows about cliff cab are you sure you have the name correct ? could you be thinking of checker ? if i remember right their cab's was green.
Last Edited by on Sep 27, 2009 9:38 PM
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RIVERDALE RAT
380 posts
Sep 28, 2009
5:59 AM
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dquartz: Yes, I am sure Cliff was the name of the cab company. I knew several of the guy's who worked there. they was one of the major Taxi companys for years. I dont know what ever became of them.
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corvettes6
53 posts
Sep 28, 2009
7:20 AM
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Cliff cab used all green cabs and there dispatch center and office was a storefront on Ludlow east side between 5th and 6th street
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RIVERDALE RAT
382 posts
Sep 28, 2009
8:11 AM
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corvettes6: Right you are, they was right there on the corner of the Alley about a half block up from the old Rocket Bar. cant seem to find anybody that knows why they disappeared from the landscape.
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dquartz
248 posts
Oct 01, 2009
2:42 AM
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riverdale...i tried searching and i cant find a thing on them. they must have been bought out by somebody.
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RIVERDALE RAT
386 posts
Oct 02, 2009
7:15 PM
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If memory serves Cliff Cab Company was owned by a man named Stayner. I think his son is still alive and owns a Nightclub somewhere in or around Dayton. I was just curious as to whatever became of the Cab buisness, they was a fixture around town for decades.
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RIVERDALE RAT
390 posts
Oct 03, 2009
2:52 AM
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Found this comment contained in a article published in the year of 2000, looks like Cliff merged with Yellow at some point. if memory serves Miami Liberty and Checker Cab have had the same owner since the mid 60s.
Schultz would not say how many drivers work for his company, but said Miami Liberty has about 21 cars. It expects to buy more in a matter of months.
Miami Liberty and Checker Cab are owned by the same company. Yellow Cab and Cliff are owned by the same company.
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dquartz
258 posts
Oct 03, 2009
9:06 PM
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riverdale... i found this article on stayner..
Stayner bought the Bimini Bill's building in 1988. He could remember the days in the 1950s when the street bustled with activity. It was an entertainment district, he said, with restaurants and bars gathered around the old train station. His father owned Cliff Cab Company on the same street, and he spent a lot of time in the neighborhood.
He watched the neighborhood begin its decline about a decade after World War II.
"They took the train station out," Stayner said, and the area began to slide. Eventually he said, "It was a bunch of wino bars, prostitutes and flop houses."
Stayner's building, constructed in 1909, clearly showed its age when he bought it.
The roof had caved in, the floors had begun to collapse and water lines no longer extended to the building's aging pipes. Stayner stabilized the building two years later, thinking he would turn it into an antiques store or an office.
Instead, Stayner used the two-story building mainly for storage and for collateral on loans. He owns the Yellow Rose night club in West Carrollton.
Last Edited by on Oct 03, 2009 9:07 PM
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RIVERDALE RAT
399 posts
Oct 04, 2009
4:22 PM
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dquartz: Thanks for the article. I guess Cliff Cab is now owned by Yellow and there are no more green cab's on the street. at least the Stayner's are still in buisness and part of the dayton landscape in some form.
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Bill68
72 posts
Dec 25, 2009
12:43 PM
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Ah, Butterburgers. In 1969 I would leave DP&L at 5, go to the White Tower and get a Butterburger, then go to the Library and study for an hour, then go to Stivers High School for a 7 pm Sinclair College class. The Butterburgers were mashed flat on the grill, had an onion and pickle and a side of fries and cole slaw.
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RIVERDALE RAT
450 posts
Aug 17, 2010
4:59 PM
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Does anyone remember the Murder of a Taxi Driver in the late 80s or early 90s? do you remember what company the driver worked for, where it may have happened or if they ever caught the person who done it?
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RIVERDALE RAT
458 posts
Aug 17, 2010
10:42 PM
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According to Mr. Google, the old White Tower is still standing at the fork on Patterson Blvd. Can someone tell me if it is still a Restaurant of some type?
Also, It looks like the old BHA building is gone? I see the Salvation Army has moved into the old Miami Maid Bread Bakery.
Last Edited by on Aug 19, 2010 5:04 AM
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AllenN71
53 posts
Aug 18, 2010
11:54 AM
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I remember Cliff Cab very well, they were a common sight during my growing-up years and were always lined up at the Greyhound station when I came home on leave from the Air Force.
My folks told me that when Wayne Township incorporated into Huber Heights, the City of Dayton was so miffed at not being able to annex the Township once and for all (Oh, they tried! The potential tax revenue must have made their mouths water!) that the City Council passed an ordinance in the Taxicab Code forbidding Dayton cabs from taking requests for service from or to Huber. I've often wondered if that was fact or misunderstanding.
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RIVERDALE RAT
465 posts
Aug 18, 2010
2:55 PM
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allen71
Well, Finally another person who remembers Cliff Cab. I can't shed much light on the annexation fiasco; it was still just Wayne Township in my Day. It seems as though they could have prevented the Taxi's from answering calls in Huber, but I'm not sure if it would have been legal to pass a law preventing Driver's from taking a paying fare to some particular area of the County. Who knows, we had some real goofs in City Government for a while back then. Thanks for the input.
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roge
58 posts
Aug 18, 2010
3:30 PM
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I remember a cab company out of Kettering called Kettering Bee Line Cab in the early 70's,supposedly were running without insurance and forced out of business
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