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Feb 22, 2008
5:31 PM
Just found the page a couple of days ago...really enjoyed reading and remembering the good old days. I grew up in Xenia and loved to cruise Frich's on Keowee St. in my '70 Chevy and then drag racing on Rip Rap Rd. There was a pinball place on Brown St. called Jug and Doe's where I played Pong for the first time and then tried to get in the the Todd burlesque...ahhhh...the memories.
8 posts
Feb 23, 2008
9:58 PM
When I was a kid I was really into the local Dayton and Cincinnati TV shows. The first show my mom took me to was the Johnny Gilbert show. Johnny Gilbert is now the Jeopardy announcer. His show was done live from the channel 2 studios (WLW-D in those days). I remember my mother wore a hat to the show that she made out of ring neck pheasant feathers! Johnny was so interested with the hat that he interviewed my mom for awhile live on the show. I was impressed!

I was on the Uncle Al show once. That was a lot of fun. I remember they had us playing a bunch of different games.

On another occasion our cub scout troop went on the Uncle Orrie Show. My buddy Jodie got in trouble for asking Uncle Orrie how much money he made. I got picked to introduce the Micky Mouse Club segment. I remember being very nervous.

Years later, when I was in college, I and friend went to the Lyle Stieg Show. We had a blast at that show. He had Victor Buono as a guest. Victor Buono did comedy poetry and used to be on Johnny Carson occasionally. I remember laughing so hard I was crying!
1 post
Mar 06, 2008
11:46 AM
Anybody remember the Greyhound dog races that were held on a local tv station in the '60s? What about the Travel Master Inn on first street in Dayton? I was supposed to start a job on the same day they had a bad fire.

Can't forget the Hasty Tasty restaurant in Huber Heights on Brandt Pike. My dad and I would pick my mom up at Miami Valley Hospital when she got off and would bring home chicken-in-a-basket.
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Mar 15, 2008
10:16 PM
A couple more memories I don't know if people recalled yet:
1) Frank Z chevrolet with that creepy guy who told you to say "Mr. Goodwrench sent you"
2) The Red Baron arcade at the Dayton Mall,
Hot Sams pretzels on the lower level. Chess King mens clothing, The gigantic spiral staircases in the main hall. Penneys on one end, Sears on the other end of the mall. Cinema 1 downstairs which was the big theater. I saw Empire Strikes Back there. Mayor's records which was about 3 feet wide. Thal's, McCrory's the junk store that smelled like fertilizer and pets. Poelking Lanes, Video City arcade.
3) the magic/joke store on Brown st. Woodman Lanes.
4) the Salem Mall with the dancing fountains.
5) Woody's which had the cake decorating and bookstore on the second level. The water wheel, the women in the bakery wearing the plaid bonnets. The gigantic scale that tallied up the number of people who used it. The rock wall with water cascading over the surface, the meat department with the full butchered cows in the windows, they sold actual hog testicles in a big steel tub.
6) London Bobby's on Shoup Mill, Plum Creek furniture, Moorman Pontiac, where I got lost once. The GC Murphy's store at Forest Park that had a soda fountain with paper straws and drinks served in paper cones with metal bases. Birds and fish for sale in the back. People would let the birds out and they'd fly all over the store. North star drive in which competed with Dixie.
7) Duffs buffet, Philman's head shop (aw jeeeez!) The Colony Club, Neils Heritage House, Cork and Bottle by Centerville HS where 14 year olds would buy cigarettes and smoke them at school. MOnkey Miler's Tresler Comet gas station on far hills that still had the globes on the pumps. Elder Beerman Southtown that had a mini Arby's in it and two theaters.
Dingleberry's when the Dinglebears sang the theme, and the girls working there were on roller skates. Elder Beerman's had a full restaurant in them.
The downtown Rikes, and EB's.
12 posts
Mar 17, 2008
1:23 PM
My very first job was sacking groceries at Woody's market back in 1971. I also used to work at the Red Baron arcade and Cinemas 1&2 at the Dayton Mall as well as the Southtown Cinemas 1&2 by Elder Beermans. Working the cinemas was cool, but the Red Baron is one of those experiences best forgotten. The guy who ran it was named Chuck and he drove a POS '58 Chevy that was a rust bucket. The cinemas paid $1.50 an hour back when I worked there, but you got all the free popcorn and movies you could stand. I think I hold the world's record for seeing "Jaws" the most times at a theatre while working as a doorman/usher at Dayton Mall Cinema II. I used to love watching the people jump when the scary parts came on. Changing those big marquees out in front of the mall was a trip, too. I can remember having to take a ladder out and climb up on the sign with a bag of big plastic letters in sub-zero weather on many occasions. People would drive by on SR741 and honk their horns and throw stuff at us while we up changing the signs. I also worked a brief stint at Hobby Center Toys in the Dayton Mall. I used my valued experience to later get a job as assistant manager at the Childrens Palace Southtown. Remember Camelot Music? I was assistant manager at the store at the Upper Valley Mall. I was hired by a guy named Larry who ran the Dayton Mall Camelot store at the time. I seemed to have a talent for getting jobs at places that aren't around anymore. I guess you can say that about most of the Dayton area's "unique" businesses...they're just not around anymore. I now understand what people mean when they say "you can never go home". Home is never the same place you left.

Here's a little Dayton Mall trivia I bet you didn't know: One of the barbers that used to work at "The Golden Razor" in the Dayton Mall is still barbering. Dennis Murphy now owns "The Cutting Room" in Centerville and cuts hair six days a week. If you do the math, Denny has been cutting hair for over forty years and hasn't lost his touch.

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Mar 19, 2008
5:35 PM
I remember the San Rae Bakery, near Gas Light Village and Shroyer Rd. I used to ride my Schwinn heavy duty bike to buy baseball cards there. I delivered the Journal Herald six days a week at 0400 with that bike. Made $15/wk with tips. I remember when the toy store on Patterson Rd. was going to close as some new pizza place called Marion's was taking it's place. The Parkmoor on Shroyer and the DQ across the street...used to go there every Friday night after grocery shopping at Dorothy Lane with my grandparents. There was a Sinclair gas station across the street with a green dinosour. Oak Day and the 20 foot diving board with Spinning Wheel playing on the loud speakers. Poelking Lanes youth bowling on Saturday mornings...for a dime your could reserve a house ball. The Pony Keg. Brun's...went there for a hamburger and a 7 up with my dad and brother after haircuts at Bill the barber. The Belmont Drive in theater...popcorn from home in a brown paper grocery bag from Liberal's. The par 3 hole next to WHIO. They used to broadcast a closest to the pin contest. Lowering the flag to taps in the background every day at Gentile. Taps car wash.
13 posts
Mar 20, 2008
5:44 AM
Anyone remember the Kresge's at Town & Country shopping center in Kettering? Their lunch counter had the best grilled cheese sandwiches ever. They made them with real butter back then and they came with a steaming basket of those crinkle cut french fries you just never see anymore...
111 posts
Mar 21, 2008
2:36 PM
JohnC, I think there was a Kresge's at Airway back in the 60s that had a cool little lunch counter. I don't remember a lot about their food.
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Mar 21, 2008
5:10 PM
Okay, help me out here. I am the only one in my family that remembers this, and I am beginning to question if it ever was true! My mom used to work at the Tijuana Lounge in the old Salem Mall, and while we would visit her at work, my Dad would take me around to see animals that were kept in cages throughout the halls of the mall. I specifically remember a monkey cage, and a big toucan, and once there were those giant turtles. Anyone else remember that? It would have been 1969-1973 sometime.

I am so glad I found this site! I wasted one whole day at work reading all of your all's posts! What fun!
2 posts
Mar 21, 2008
6:44 PM
A few other memories:

Once a local radio station dropped ping pong balls from a helicopter above Forest Park, and if you found the lucky ball, you would win something. We went over there, and there were tons of people. My mom used to always take my brother and I over to Forest Park for new shoes, and to get our pictures taken. Once, we got to feed baby lambs and calfs with bottles there. I was always very curious about what was underground at Forest Park. There were all those stairs that led down to somewhere underground, but we were never allowed to go down and see what was there.

We used to always swim at Clearwater pool. I loved that HUGE metal slide over through the trees. I remember walking through the dressing rooms, down to that little bridge you had to cross, and over to the place where we would put our towels. They had a jukebox, and always had the newest music playing. My dad called the place Coldwater, because it was like ice water all of the time. The atmosphere was so much better than Miller's Grove pool, though.

At Triangle Park there was a hollow tree that you had to climb up through to go down a slide. It's probably still there. We used to watch baseball games from up on that hill in Triangle park, and my Dad would always buy us those little wax coke bottles filled with sugary juice from the snack stand there.

I loved the part of the Natural History museum that showed the baby devoloping in the womb, and right by that they always had baby chicks in various stages of hatching in a glass tunnel. Remember there was a mini-zoo in there with a big ugly vulture, and foxes, oh, and bees! I was fascinated by those bees coming and going in and out of that tree!

I LOVED that fire engine in Island Park! And they always had the most unique swings that I have never seen the likes of anywhere else in the world.

I took accordion lessons over on Main Street, and afterwards, we always ate at Pedro's for 5-way chili. That was the best chili in the world!

After the Bargain Barn went out of business, they always had a flea market on weekends in that same shopping center, and we went there often. My dad would give my brother and I both $1.00 each to spend. My brother would always get one hot-wheel car or something, but I used my money to get 12 Archie comic books for $1.00 every time. I thought I got soooo much more for my money. I still have all those old Archies, and I often wish I could find such deals these days. My dad and brother collected beer cans, and we were always looking for those there.

There used to be a car dealer, i think over around Woodman, that had real stuffed bears in their showroom. By real, I mean hunted, dead, and stuffed, in standing positions. That was always fun to go see.

I love, love, loved going to Rikes every Christmas season to see the window displays, and to shop at the Tykes store. My mom always let us kids do all of our shopping there. That is one of my favorite childhood memories - Rikes. Sigh.

Every time we went downtown, we would look for Rags. We'd usually almost always see him, too.

The first movie I ever remember seeing in a theatre was Chitty-Chitty-bang-Bang in the Salem Mall theatre. The last movie I ever saw at that theatre was Star Wars in 1977. Oh, and I loved those fountains in the Salem Mall.

My favorite place to eat was Kuntz's Cafeteria. What I wouldn't give to go there again. That beautiful old building with all of it's lovely rooms. We always had roast beef there.

Okay, I'm stopping here for a bit. When I think of more, I will come post again.

I miss Dayton the way it used to be. It was a wonderful, innocent place to grow up, and I had an amazing childhood there. I am most grateful for that.
112 posts
Mar 22, 2008
1:06 PM
Kaisermom, you and I must be about the same age ... I remember seeing Chitty chitty Bang Bang and Mary Poppins at Salem Mall. What a wonderful place it was back then. The old Childrens Palace on Salem was cool, too. It seemed like heaven back in the late 60s.

I also went to Rikes downtown every year at Christmas time. That's where I would see Santa. Those old window displays are back downtown now at the Schuster Center (I think that's the facility that stands at the old Rikes site)... it isn't the same, of course, but it's amazing to think those are the same displays that marveled us so many years ago.
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Mar 24, 2008
11:14 PM
I found a London Bobby fish and chips in Russell Point,Ohio at Indian Lake. It's at a Cassano's Pizza. Also there is a Arthur Treachers in Reynoldsburg,Ohio near Columbus.I Have ate at both places and the fish at london bobby's is good like old times. I love the fried oysters and fish at Arthur Treachers as well.

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Mar 25, 2008
10:31 AM
I just recently discovered this site, but I thought of several places in and around the Belmont/East Dayton area.
1. The Wooden Shoe Restaurant which became the Fireside Inn
(Now Frickers on Woodman Dr. the facade of the building
hasn't really changed that much.)
The Wooden Shoe had the best onion rings.
There was also a place called the Dairy Depot next to the
Rootbeer Stand on Woodman. The building was originally Arthur Treacher's and then became an ice cream/putt putt family restaurant.
Rink's was across the street and then it became a Hill's Department Store and finally Conctractors Warehouse.
There was also a dance club on the end of the building
but I can't remenber the name.
Eastown Shopping center had a Krege's, a Kroger and a Revco
at one time as well as Elder-Beerman which at one point took up nearly half of the shopping center.
I grew up right behind Eastown and at one time you could get almost anything you needed there from groceries to lunch to clothes a hair cut dance lessons to furniture.

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3 posts
Mar 26, 2008
8:02 AM
Here are a few more things I remember growing up in the
East Dayton/Belmont/Linden Heights area.
Eastown-Moonlight Chilli
UnClaimed Freight Furniture
Eleder-Beerman (had a record store that
opened into the arcade.
Olan Mills
Hallmark Store
Citizen's Federal Savings and Loan (passbook
savings accounts)
The last time I looked the old Photomat hut was still
in the parking lot. I hope it stays there forwever.
Bullock Garages
There was a lounge on the end of the shopping center
(now a dry cleaner I think) Does anyone remember the
Gunther's Linden House
Glenn's (Now Bunny's Hasty Tasty)
King Kwik ( not sure how they spelled that it was next
to Hasty Tasty.
At A Boy gas station
Godfathers Pizza on Linden (building recently torn down
Bonanza! (restaurant similar to Ponderosa on Linden)
Fazios (next to Gold Circle on Woodman
The old cement factory on Woodman next to Allied storage
I guess it is safe to say we used to get sand there for
our backyard
Handyman Lumber
The Wooden Shoe Restaurant (now Frickers) I'd love it if
somebody remembered this place.
The two I miss most: Belmont Drive-In and the Dabel
theater (widest screen in Dayton)
2 posts
Mar 26, 2008
12:47 PM
San Rae Bakery! The baker was missing a finger and up in the rafters were stuffed squirrels! Penny candy was really a penny and the phone booths were just that - booths with closing doors and all made out of wood.

It was indeed an innocent place to grow up, and there were so many kids everywhere. In the summer we would play "Red Rover" and "Red Light Green Light". My favorite TV show was Superman with George Reeves. I remember having to wait (watching the Indian Head test pattern) until it came on. At that time there wasn't 24 hr. programming. And lots of LIVE tv. Uncle Orrie, Romper Room, Singing commercials.
3 posts
Mar 28, 2008
7:35 PM
JeffN, Thanks for the info on the old Rike's displays downtown now at the new place. I'll have to try to make it in around Christmas sometime soon for that! What a treat that would be!

I was born in 1964. ;)

The painted turtles sound amazing! I want one! I'm pretty sure pet shops stopped being allowed to sell little turtles because of Salmonella. Something we never knew about back then, yet never died from either.
4 posts
Mar 28, 2008
7:39 PM
JohnC, Yay! Someone remembers besides me! What a relief! I most definitely remember a monkey, though, too. He was chained to a pole, but was surrounded by the iron bars, too. But, he couldn't get down off his pole and over to the bars. Actually, the pet shop wasn't there yet at the time. It came in the early 70's. There was something else next to the Tijuana Lounge in the Salem Mall before that, and when the animal cages were there. Thanks!
1 post
Apr 01, 2008
11:33 AM
Remember these bars

Dixie Electric Company on Woodman
-Two for one on Thursday nights
First Stop on Brown St
Cowboys on North Dixie

Food establishments
The pizza place before Mamma Disalvos- The Venetian.

Lums at Town and Country shopping center.

Pizza place in Belmont called Barnaby's. I think there is either a bank or funeral home their now.

How about Kettering Stroop Road Pool with that huge slide.

Kettering Putt Putt with the archery range and later with 24 hour video arcade.

Remember when families had carnivals at their homes for Muscular Dystrophy

Goofy Golf miniature golf course with the big dinosaurs on Dixie drive in Kettering.

3.2 beer and drinking legally at 18 yrs of age

Wearing ties to Carroll High School
15 posts
Apr 01, 2008
12:16 PM
Hey all you hot rodders from Dayton in the 70's: Remember "The Egyptian"? His shop is still there, but he's gone now. He was a major influence on the Dayton car culture back in the day and won several national awards for his paint and bodywork.
1 post
Apr 01, 2008
2:31 PM
I lived in the Riverdale neighborhood (roughly, Parkwood & N. Main) 1940-1948 and still remember a few things and places. I'd be interested in hearing from others from than place and time. Anyone remember Good's Hobby Shop on N. Main?
16 posts
Apr 02, 2008
5:16 AM
JeffN-The Egyptian's body shop was on East Third St. I always dreamed of having a car customized and painted by him, but hey, I was just a punk kid and didn't have that kind of coin. I read where he passed away sometime in the last few years, but the shop's still there. Or was, anyway.

The Hobby Shop on North Main was run for years by a guy named Andy Martin. Real prince of a guy. The deterioration of the neighborhood back in the early 80's drove him out. That, and lack of parking. I used to visit his shop whenever I went to the Grubsteak for lunch across the street. Royal ribs and their homemade creamy garlic salad that's a pretty sweet memory.
59 posts
Apr 02, 2008
5:41 AM
I believe the building where the hobby shop was on north Main is a tool rental place now. I went there a few times back in the 70's.
2 posts
Apr 02, 2008
6:06 AM
Around 1945 the hobby shop was owned and run by Mrs. Good, an irritable and long-suffering older woman continually pestered by small boys pawing over the inventory. The shop was a couple of blocks south of the Dale Theater on the same side of the street. There was some sort of tropical-theme restaurant there last time I drove by, many years ago.
4 posts
Apr 02, 2008
12:30 PM
Thanks to copierman, I couldn't remember the name of the Dixie Electric Co...used to go there after getting off work at Eastown Elder-Beerman.
Also, I didn't wear a tie to Carroll but I did have to wear
the old battleship gray, wear like iron polyester skirts.
The length test consisted of kneeling down to make sure your skirt was long enough.
Do you remember Ferdinand and Isabella (the red white and
blue patriot buses?)
60 posts
Apr 03, 2008
6:15 AM
Max - That tropical themed place you mentioned would have to be the "Tropics." I think it was torn down back in the 80's and a pharmacy was built on the land. The pharmacy closed and I believe it's now a day care center.
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Apr 03, 2008
1:37 PM
JohnC, I believe we grew up in the same neighborhood. All the places you talked about are very familiar to me. I know exactly where you described that fatal crash near the cemetery. I grew up two blocks from there.I also remember hearing the drag races at night from my house. I was a little too young for the racing myself but I knew every cool car that used to run in the neighborhood.

I can't remember the name of the restaurant next to McDonalds on S Dixie acreoss from the old Frigidaire. I think it was angelo's. They used to have some killer subs there.
1 post
Apr 03, 2008
5:15 PM
I've been lurking for a while and thoroughly enjoying everyone's memories. I couldn't resist adding a few... I grew up in the Fairview area. Some memories: Good Samaritan used to have a front lawn. There was a movie theater across the street from Good Sam, but I can't remember the name - was it Day-Vue? It closed in the early 60s. On icy winter mornings I remember watching the electric buses on Catalpa sparking and sputtering when they went by. My neighborhood had probably 5 drugstores within easy walking distance. Ray's was the one I went to the most. And there was a hat shop at the corner of Fairview & Catalpa that lasted long into the 70s.
61 posts
Apr 04, 2008
9:47 AM
Bulldug - You are right about the movie theater on Salem. It was called the Davue and closed down in 1961.

The hat shop at Catalpa and Fairview was called "Engleberts Hat Shop."

Ray's is still going stong along with "Rinaldos Bakery." Remember the fire station on the corner?

I remember the old front entrance at Good Sam. It was on Fairview when the street use to run all the way to Salem.

I'm in that area a lot as I live just south of Salem and Catalpa.

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118 posts
Apr 04, 2008
1:38 PM
John ... I do remember the Egyptian on Third. I had a friend who had a 429 Mustang Cobra Jet who had his paint done there. I can't believe the place is still there! I drove past it not long ago, but didn't notice. They've really done some work on restoring Third Street havent they?
2 posts
Apr 06, 2008
10:58 AM
driver -- Thanks for the help remembering. I'm surprised Ray's and Rinaldo's are still there. I no longer live in Dayton, but I remember that corner well. Part of Ray's was originally a Sohio station. And Rinaldo's was originally Owen's Bakery. Belton's Juice company was in the building until around 1970 or so. I don't go this far back, but I understand that the old fire station at that corner was originally Fairview School.
64 posts
Apr 06, 2008
4:00 PM
Not sure about the fire station being Fairview school as the elementary school down towards Good Sam was built many years ago....1920's maybe. The fire station is now a Priority Board office. The city closed it when they built a new fire station at Fairview and Main.

I remember when the front part of Ray's was a Sohio station. It's a beer drive-thru now.

What else do you remember about that area?
2 posts
Apr 08, 2008
11:31 AM

I remember those two buses and they had alot of miles on them.

The Dixie Electric was a busy place and I could never figure out why they closed it down.

CHS class of 1979
Some great memories from that school

Didn't the different color skirts represent the different grades of students?
4 posts
Apr 09, 2008
9:11 AM
When I was sixteen I could purchase 3.2 beer. Had never drank until then. Drove to Xenia, drank the six pack and will never forget that. Michigan was 16 legal age also.

Still waiting to hear if anyone grew up in the Victory apts. on San Rae Drive. I need photos from the 1950's and also memories.
The Ridge
1 post
Apr 09, 2008
9:57 AM
Speaking of Lawson's, I still love their commercial:

Roll on, Big O.
Get that juice up to Lawson’s in 40 hours.
Well, the oranges ripen in the Florida sun.
Sweet on the tree they stay.
Then they pick ‘em and they squeeze ‘em just as quick as you please.
And the Big O leaves the same day.
Roll on, Big O.
Get that juice up to Lawson’s in 40 hours.
Well one man sleeps while the other man drives on the nonstop Lawson’s run.
And the sweet sweet juice in that tank truck caboose stays as fresh as the Florida sun.
Roll on, Big O.
Get that juice up to Lawson’s in 40 hours.
6 posts
Apr 09, 2008
10:17 AM
So, I went home to Dayton for a day visit yesterday, and my Mom took me around to the places we lived when I was young there. We started out at the little Gale apartment house on Ryburn Avenue, then over to Queens Avenue, then to Gettysburg Avenue, before we moved to Huber Heights in 1972. How sad to see that all those places are now in bad neighborhoods, when they used to be so quaint and innocent. Sigh, and so much of Dayton abandoned and gone or just ruined. What I wouldn't give to see it thriving and alive like it once was. What the heck happened to my hometown?

We also drove Hickorydale Elementary where I went to Kindergarten and first grade. It looks like it was bombed out! Are they just tearing the whole thing down? I was so thankful to go there on that day and see it one last time, for I'm sure I will never look upon that building again. How sad.
67 posts
Apr 09, 2008
11:24 AM
Rainebowlady - Are you sure you didn't mean you purchased 3.2 beer at age 18? That was the legal age back in the 50's. I never heard of buying beer at age 16 and I've been living in Ohio since the early 40's.
68 posts
Apr 09, 2008
11:36 AM
Kaisermom - What happened to Dayton is the same as many other industrial cities. The jobs left and many parts of town fell into disrepair. The population when I moved here in 1972 was around 220,000, I think. It's now a little over 160,000.

As for the school, a tax levy was passed several years ago to build new schools so many of the old ones are being torn down. New schools will be built on some of the sites and some sites will remain empty as school enrollment has dropped along with the population.

I agree the city has gone downhill a lot but that's what happens when the jobs leave. Sad but true.

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120 posts
Apr 09, 2008
11:53 AM
It is sad. As I've posted before, it almost seems my little neighborhood has undergone an uptick the past few years. the houses look to be in beter shape, like they're being taken care of. Five-10 years ago, it looked like they were heading downhill fast.

How is Huber Heights these days Kasiermom? I haven't been over that way in quite some time.
3 posts
Apr 09, 2008
12:22 PM

Were they class of 1979 Carroll?

I remmeber going to Jimbo's with my parents and grandparents and eating then playing indoor miniature golf.
5 posts
Apr 09, 2008
3:11 PM
driver62 - nope. It was 16 for 3.2 beer in 1968. By 18 I had already left and moved to Kansas City.
122 posts
Apr 11, 2008
10:41 AM
Copierman ... the Carroll folks were from the clases of 77-80 mostly. Most of them lived in my neighborhood.
4 posts
Apr 11, 2008
5:00 PM
Here are some memories of Downtown that you may share...

Heading out of downtown on Main as you crossed the river there used to be a billboard with neon lights that would flash "Mabel - Black Label - Carling Black Label Beer".

Anyone else remember when Elder Beerman was two different stores? Elder's was located on the west side of Main between 4th and 5th (I think). It was a multi-floor department store similar to Rike's but only about 4 floors instead of Rike's 8. They also had Christmas displays but they were inside the store. I can remember a pretty elaborate model train setup.

Beerman's was across Main from Elder's. It had an oval display window on the 2nd floor. That building became the first Elder Beerman's when Elder's closed down. (This was before the EB off Courthouse Square).

Speaking of Rike's, it would be interesting to see what folks can remember about what was on each floor. I can remember jewelry on 1st, toys on 8th, furniture on 7th? Gold Coin on 5th.

Also, do you remember the numeric signs in Rike's that (presumably) the security folks used? Different combinations of numbers would light up. And there would periodically be the "morse code doorbell" sound.

Do they still have "Downtown Dayton Day"? DDD was huge back in the 60s. Large crowds stampeding for bargains.
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Apr 14, 2008
11:31 AM
Driver and Bulldug,
I live in the Fairview area now and have been looking for some insight regarding the past. Thank you for your posts. Do you have any other information regarding that area? Do you have any idea why the area with the boundries of Philadelphia, Salem, Catalpa and Hillcrest was called Mount Auburn? Was the majority of the population in that area jewish? Any more insight would be greatly appreciated.

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17 posts
Apr 14, 2008
12:32 PM
What I remember about Rikes downtown:

Books on five. Electronics, records, and TV's on four. Tykes store at Christmas on four. Menswear and women's colognes on one. At one point, they had an indoor newsstand on one and a couple of small sandwich shops. Sporting goods was on eight with the toys. Remember the elaborate Marklin HO scale train layout on eight each year at Christmas time? My mom used to take me to the toy department around Christmas time because that was the only place in Dayton to buy Corgi and Dinky diecast cars from England. They had a big display case like the old Matchbox Car cases. As I remember, it was also the only place in the Dayton area to buy Steiff plush animals from Germany. I used to buy comic books from the newsstand on the first floor. I believe there was also a cafeteria style restaurant on the mezzanine where I ate in the early 80's when I worked downtown for the telephone company. I worked at the 369 W First Street building across the street from the Holiday Inn (which is no longer there). We would walk to Rikes, Beermans or the Arcade every day for lunch.

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5 posts
Apr 14, 2008
4:13 PM
madge - I can't say I've heard the area called Mount Auburn before. It was always just Fairview or Upper Dayton View when I was there. As for the Jewish population, I remember having a good number of Jewish classmates. Of course, the Dayton synagogues are/were close by on Salem. I think they were Temple Israel and Beth Abraham, but my memory may be faulty here.
6 posts
Apr 14, 2008
4:21 PM
JohnC - I had totally forgotten about the book department and newsstand at Rikes. Thanks for bringing those memories back! I was also a Corgi toy collector. There was at least one more place in town to buy them. I bought most of mine at the small toy shop that was inside Stumps on Salem.

Thinking about shopping also brought back another old memory: tax stamps. Remember when you got these after making a purchase? You could collect them and give them to your school so the school could redeem them for cash. If you Google "Ohio Tax Stamps" there's a site where you can see pictures of them.
69 posts
Apr 15, 2008
7:29 AM
Madge - I don't remember the Fairview area being called Mt. Auburn but I didn't move to Dayton until 1972. The priority board for that area is called Fair River Oaks. It's located in the old fire station at Fairview and Catalpa. I have no idea if that's the official name for the area now.

I live close to Salem and Catalpa and my neighborhod use to be called Upper Dayton View. Now it's called the Dayton View Triangle as the boundaries form a triangle. The area further down Salem towards the river was Lower Dayton View and is now just called Dayton View.

As for days long past, The mini-mart at Hillcrest and Catalpa was a Gulf gas station at one time. Across the street, where Bettman's is now located was either a Marathon or Mobil station. Rite-Aid bought the land and built a pharmacy there. When they built a bigger one at Main and Fairview, they closed the Capalpa store. It sat empty until Bettman's moved there from Miracle Lane. The land at the Main and Fairview store use to have a Cassano's pizza place there.

If you drive Catalpa heading towards Siebenthaler, the area where you leave the Dayton city limits was called Shiloh. Now it's just Harrison Township.

I can think of more things about the neighborhood that have changed but don't want to write a small novel.(lol) I'm sure Bulldug can add lots more as he lived in the area before I did.

Last Edited by on Apr 15, 2008 7:32 AM
3 posts
Apr 15, 2008
9:46 AM
Driver.. I don't mind a small novel. I would appreciate any info you can share. I went and talked to Rinaldo this morning. He gave me information that you & bulldug had discussed on this site earlier. He is still going strong!
You can send to my email any information if you don't want to post on the website. My email is
7 posts
Apr 15, 2008
4:41 PM
Driver - Here's one for you...Was Hoot Gibson still around when you moved to Dayton? He used to have a gas station near Salem & Philadelphia. He had a late-50s/early 60s T-Bird that had a huge cowboy hat bolted to the roof. Seeing that thing driving around the neighborhood really was a hoot!
8 posts
Apr 15, 2008
5:46 PM
madge - I can remember a couple of other things. I'll try to think of more.

At the back of the parking lot on Fairview (next to the FROC board) was a barn-shaped building. That was Dayton View Sheet Metal (at least I think that was the name). It was run by a Mr. Narcter. He installed siding and downspouts. He was still there when I left the neighborhood in the early 80s.

At the southeast corner of Cherry & Catalpa was a 1920s-era phone company building. I'm not sure what you'd call the architectural style, but it was typical of Dayton at the time. Sort of elaborate but not Art Deco. There were really tall windows that you could look thru and actually see the phone switches operating. They had a neighborhood open-house once and I got to tour the building.

Speaking of phones, the old exchange name for the area was "Crestview". So your phone number was something like CR7-1234.

I see that Google has finally obtained decent satellite imagery of the area. For many years all you could see was blur. Now that I can see how blighted the area is, maybe the blur was better. :^(

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